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The Supreme Court Rules that Obamacare is Legal
(John 3:16)
***ASK BILL: Pastor Bill, Sometimes I wonder how you do it. You dish out an unpopular message to the world and you take abuse for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Don't you ever get tempted to soften the message in hopes of getting less persecution? And fitting in to the world with a weak, comfy Christian message?
ANSWER: This is a question I get every day. The answer surprisingly is NO! No sane person enjoys being persecuted, or taking the slings and arrows. No sane person would want to have 8-10 death threats a month as I have for over 10 years now. However, there IS a price to serving the Lord. Part of that price is to be persecuted, mocked, laughed at, and scorned. However, that is a small price to pay considering that Jesus went to the cross to pay for my sins, your sins, and the sins of all mankind! Softening the message is NOT an option, since like each of us, I will die one day and stand before God. I want that to be a great experience, and my life is dedicated to hearing His words, "Well done thou good and faithful servant!"
The Supreme Court rules that Obamacare is LEGAL! Are you ready to listen to me yet????? I warned people in 2007, that the judgment of God is beginning to fall on this nation through the economy. TRILLIONS of dollars since that time has been lost. I told you in 2008 that if God allowed a true minion of satan like Barack Obama to become our next President it would be a furtherance of His judgment. In the last 3 years he has proven to be the most pro-baby killing, pro-homosexual, pro-enemy of Israel President in the history of this nation. I told you last November that if the upcoming election for President was between President Obama and Mitt Romney, it was another clear sign that God is FINISHED with this nation. One of those men WILL become our next President.
ARE YOU READY TO LISTEN TO ME YET??????? How many times have I told you that the problems in this nation are not economics, they are not health related, they are NOT political, THEY ARE SPIRITUAL!!!
The Supreme Court ruling on Obamacare is, was, and always will be, about one thing....MONEY! At the end of the day, this "debate" about healthcare has never been about helping those who didn't have health insurance, but about who controls 1/6 of the US economy. BOTH SIDES of this issue have trillions of dollars to lose or gain, and please don't ever get so lost in the rhetoric to lose sight that this "debate" has always been about the almighty dollar!
I am certain that the response from the Romney campaign will be to elect Mitt in order to repeal Obamacare. Don't forget, this is coming from the same man who created the model Obama used to nationalize healthcare. Practically speaking, it will not be that easy since he will need both Republican AND Democrats to get Obamacare repealed. Anyone who thinks voting for a 5th generation high priest of a satanic cult will undo this law, has bought into a lie from satan who is laughing at you! The fact is, the Supreme Court ruling is simply another glaring example of God's judgment on this nation!
Let me remind you about President George W. Bush who Christians thought would be the answer for this nation. He ran two times promising Christians that if they voted for him he would work to overturn Roe vs. Wade and to implement a Constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman. HE DID NEITHER, NOR DID HE EVEN TRY. There were just as many baby's murdered on his watch, and his inaction on marriage, laid the foundation for 20% of our states who have now legalized same-sex marraige! For the record, he also put John Roberts on the Supreme Court as the chief justice, the same Chief Justice John Roberts whose vote upheld Obamacare!
At the end of the day, while people are so fixed on this Supreme Court ruling, the contempt vote against AG Eric Holder, and other distractions, the real problems in this nation continue. Our problems in this nation are NOT political, which is why NO politician can fix them since they are not equipped to deal with the spiritual issues we face. A narcissistic President whose god is himself certainly can't, nor can a 5th generation high priest of a satan worshipping cult!
For those who follow Limbaugh, Hannity, satanic cult member Beck, O'Reilly, and other political commentators, what have these people done for this nation? Yes, they espouse a conservative political ideology. But in the end they are ALL in business to do one thing...TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES. They are PAID to be on the radio. Everything they promote requires YOU to buy from their sponsors, pay for their books, go to their events. Millions of lemmings follow these "entertainers" who are no different than Hollywood actors who will, and can do NOTHING, to deal with our real problems.
That is because in the end, the real problems in this nation are not political, they are spiritual! Limbaugh pays homosexual advocate Elton John 1 MILLION to sing at his wedding. Hannity promotes himself as this great Christian, but calls anyone who dares to speak out against Romney's cult as a bigot. O'Reilly has as much a "god complex" as Obama does. Beck, who calls himself a man of truth and in the next breath claims to be a Christian, when any first semester Bible college student knows Beck, Romney, and those in their satanic cult are no more a Christian than a Muslim is!
NONE OF THESE PEOPLE DO ANYTHING TO HELP GUIDE PEOPLE TO THE ONLY REAL TRUTH, THE ONLY REAL ANSWER, THE ONLY REAL HOPE THERE IS...AND THAT IS FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AND FOLLOWING BIBLICAL TRUTH!!!
God's wrath, judgment, and punishment. However, like Nineveh, we can enjoy a season of His blessings and see a great harvest of souls. The time for such a season is now, since time is running out. We must act now. There is no more time to sit back and do nothing.
God gave me the plan to lead this nation back to Him and Biblical Truth. It is called the "Jonah Project." Go to this link: http://www.liveprayer.com/jonah/ Watch the short video introduction, get on board. This is the plan from God, the time is now, it is time for you to do your part and help me lead our nation back to the Almighty and His Truth!!! WE ARE OUT OF TIME!!!
ARE YOU READY TO LISTEN TO ME NOW???
Please, take a stand now. Quit giving money to politicians and the countless websites who 5 minutes after the Supreme Court ruling was announced were begging you to give them money. For what? They will and can do NOTHING, haven't people figured that out yet? Send a gift to help me do what is really necessary..TURN THIS NATION BACK TO GOD AND HIS TRUTH!!!
Wow. Um... What a crock of horseshit and a waste of space. That's all I can say.
(checks the title of the board) Hmm, its lets talk, not safe haven? Thank you, now I dont' have to sensor myself.
I'm going to take a short moment to say that I am actually pissed off at this one. It caught me at a bad time, I've been facing a lot of rhetoric and biggotry against me and my friends lately, and religious crap like this is just pissing me off. I'm sick of it, and will not be pulling any punches on this one. Thus, this is your fair warning, if your oh-so-sensative skin bruises easily, you might want to go to the next link and skip this post entirely. If you whine that I am being harsh, or any of the other pointless and frankly ignorant excuses that I am used to getting from the other side of this debate on this board, I will not hesitate to rip you a new asshole. You guys know that I am vicious, and I am opinionated. You've seen it before, if you don't like it, or don't think you can handle it, stay the fuck out of my way and let stronger people with better self-confidence do your dirty work.
Are we all agreed then? That's your warning, no fine print, no clauses. its about to get very hot in here, so if you can't stand it, I can show you were the backspace key is so you can leave the ride. Ok, keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle, lets strap on our combat gear and get to work.
First, lets start with the thing I find funny. He says, and I'm paraphrasing, "Don't send other people money, send me money. Those godless assholes don't know what they're talking about, only I do, so send me money." And he doesn't even have the balls to call it money, he calls it a gift. Like he's going to wrap it with a bow and shove it under his christmas tree for his kids.
Also, he calls Obama a narcissist. Can anyone point out anything more narcissistic than someone saying that he alone has the plan from God, and that you should send him money? Except, maybe that whole God creating an entire universe just for a single species on one tiny speck of a planet to look at and say, "ooh, look at the pretty colors". That would be, in case you didn't get the sarcasm, christianity in a nutshell.
Next, lets look at his claims. He claims that Obama killed the economy. Now, I don't really like Obama, and I don't think he helped the economy at all, but we had trillions of dollars in debt before Obama, and we will continue to after Obama. We're a nation, that's how nations work. The national debt can be a good thing people. Read hamilton, if you can put down the bible long enough. Seriously, there are other books out there.
He also claims that people like bec and others aren't christians. Well considering that this guy is judging others, he's not really christian either. Add to that the fact I can't find a single article about him getting arrested for stoning his children to death, or stoning any Atheists or Muslims to death, he's not much of a Christian himself. So he's not only a narcissistic fuckmook, he's a narcissistic and hippocritical fuckmook.
Last, and I'm only saying last because I haven't watched the video yet, God is willing to give him the plan, but not give him the means to fulfill the plan. Wow, what a nice guy that God is. Gives him a purpose, then sticks him with the bill. Makes me wonder how God plans on fixing the economy, when he can't even fund his own churches. He has to depend on the donations of ignorant people who think that their money isn't going to fund the preachers child porn collection.
Oh, and parenthetically, anyone wanna guess who kills more babies than anyone else? Hmmm, come on guess, you'll never get it. Oh that's right, its God.
Approximately 50 percent of all pregnancies end in miscarriages. That means that God himself personally kills fifty percent of every baby that has ever been conceived. he allows them to be created, then kills them. Not only does he kill them, but he kills them and crushes the hopes of the mother who was carrying them. yeah, that's a really loving mother fucker right there. And this is the guy you worship.
For once, Lightning I find myself agreeing with a good eighty percent of what you just said there. I'm afraid I find this to be a representative of one of the false Christs as it were, people who speak as if in God's name, but preach a doctrine of falacy so twisted that it can't help but sound rediculous, even to my Christian ears. Even going so far as to ignorantly call the LDS church a Satanic cult isn't the zeenith of this blame-mongerer's self-prophetic ramblings, though it certainly raised a red flag. As a member of said church, I can personally attest that I have never once seen anything Satanic about it. Frankly, I find such articles in poor taste. All such ramblings accomplish is to spit on the very foundation of the Gospel and what it stands for.
And you don't realize that you are doing the exact same thing that he is doing. You are saying, though much more politely, "you're not the right word of God, I am. I am the word of god. I know what God meant, and that guy is a judgemental prig. Don't listen to that guy, he's wrong. see me not being satanic, see how wrong he is? He's wrong, wrong I tell you." That's not far removed from saying "Follow my interpretation of the bible. If you follow their interpretation of the exact same book which says the exact same thing as the one I'm reading but for some reason we can't agree on what its saying, you'll go to hell and get deep fried in God's cast iron skillet of hell".
the fact that you say it nicely, though commendable, does not change the fact that you are being equally judgemental toward his views. You are dismissing him as wrong, when you believe in the same God, same jesus, same virgin birth, same crucifictian, same resurrection, and same book that he does. You are presenting the same crock, just doing it nicer, and yet you call him wrong.
Remember that whole verse about not plucking the speck of dust from your neighbors eye and ignoring the plank in your own? Well if you don't, look it up, its in Mathew I believe. That's you, and that plank has got to hurt.
Now some may say, "But Cody, you're saying both of them are wrong. Doesn't that mean you're judging just like they are?" Well yes, I am judging, but there are some slight differences. First, I'm not saying that if you don't follow what I say, you'll go to hell. If you don't follow what i say, absolutely nothing will happen to you that wouldn't have happened anyway. There's no punishment, no torment, no cast iron skillet of hell. Also, I'm not presenting you with the same book. I'm giving you an entirely new animal.
Granted, the Morman church presents you with a new book, but its really just the bible as written by a fraud with poor grammar skills. Its the bible version 2. Its not really all that new, and absolutely equally as faulse, improvable, and wrong.
Grabs a beer and sits back to watch the show.
"OPINIONS ARE TEMPORAL, TRUTH IS ETERNAL--WHICH DO YOU VALUE?" O, the irony...
I'm assuming the views expressed by the original post are meant as the truth part, right? Just goes to show that even truths are opinion based. all that considered, I'd have to say I value opinions more, though in reality, I think you need a balance of the two.
Though, given the original poster's track record, I'd say he's probably just posting this to troll us, because he knows topics like this get people all worked up. The fact that he posted this on "Let's Talk" where people don't have to hold back kind of goes with this theory, but who knows? it could be coincidental.
Oh my fucking god. Pun intended.
I can't really say anymore because Silver Lightning and Impricator already sized it up fairly well, except for this. the word Furtherance isn't, in, the fucking, dictionary. If this god is such a great one, why the fuck doesn't he give his most loyal followers even a speck of intelligence? Why? I don't know whether to laugh or cry at some of the stupidity I see tied to religion. Here. I'll offer up a prayer. Ready? Here it is.
God, please be merciful and at least grant some of your most loyal idiots an ounce of intelligence or else end my misery and kill me now. Please. Amen, and AWomen. lol. Nuff said.
Actually, furtherance is in the dictionary. I just looked.
*Yawns*
Oh look it's more religious right wing propaganda bullshit.
If you begin to disseminate and sell material where you wax elephant about politics, your tax exemption status as a church should be removed. Nobody gets it both ways.
I won't even start on the actual post because frankly I'm sick of their childish hysterics.
But as a honest working taxpayer I think those who wax elephant on politics should have their church status removed according to the IRS, and I don't care which politics we're talking about. I don't go to the car place to buy medicines, or the computer store to buy plants.
***ASK BILL: Pastor Bill, it seems like everyday another "celebrity" confesses to being a homosexual and to our society it is no big deal. How can a Christian not get discouraged with so much sin around us which is clearly against God's teaching?
ANSWER: It is sad to see, however, we can either throw up our hands and do nothing, or keep fighting back. We know in the end, God's Truth wins. We have the winning hand, we need to start playing like we do!
Last week, CNN's Anderson Cooper said he has been, was, and is, gay. What a shock!
Jamie Hubley was a 15-year-old boy from Ottawa, Canada. Last Friday, he chose to take his life after documenting for a month his struggles with being "gay." Hubley has become the new poster boy for the radical homosexual movement which has been using his suicide to further their goal of making homosexuality mainstream. The homosexual lobby is blaming people like myself for Hubley's death, saying that by denouncing homosexuality as a sin, it creates an atmosphere for people to bully those who choose to commit homosexual acts and puts the lives of those who choose to engage in this type of sinful activity at risk.
WRONG! It is not those who call the sin of homosexuality what God calls it, sin, who are responsible for Hubley's death, but if there is any blame outside of Hubley who made the CHOICE to engage in homosexual acts and the CHOICE to take his own life, that blame is on the homosexual community for promoting their unhealthy, unnatural, and perverted lifestyle on children. It is disgusting that they have for decades targeted children as young as elementary school in order to brainwash them that there is nothing wrong with this sexual choice.
I also blame the media, especially high profile personalities like Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Ellen DeGeneres, who use their media platform to promote and glamorize the choice to engage in homosexual acts. Some of the blame also resides with those pastors who are too afraid to take on this sin, and those faux churches that actually promote and glorify acts that God calls sinful all throughout the Bible !
On the Liveprayer TV program, I would get calls from viewers who start out by saying, "I am a homosexual." Whenever that happens, I immediately jump in before I allow them to continue to correct them. I point out the fact that there is no such thing as a homosexual, only a homosexual act. There are people who CHOOSE to have sex with people of the same sex, but that is a sexual act, not who a person is.
I have to admit, the saddest calls like this are from young men and women, clearly in their teens, calling up and claiming to be "gay" or "lesbian." These young adults have as much business engaging in any sexual activity as they do performing brain surgery!!! These children are still trying to find out what life is all about, how they fit in, and haven't got a CLUE about sexual issues, other than the lies about same-sex relationships society has crammed down their throat since birth!
Today, I want to expose this orchestrated plan by the homosexual community to brainwash your children that this sin is a perfectly acceptable choice and to warn those who are not aware to what extent the pro-homosexual agenda is being fulfilled, while hopefully wake up the bloated, weak, and apathetic church that has to bear much of the responsibility for the moral decay of our culture. The goal of those who have chosen the homosexual lifestyle is to justify their sinful choice that is inherently destructive both to society and themselves. They are trying to force society to validate legally and ethically their choice of sexual behavior and relationships, and to enact laws that allow them to promote this sinful choice to our children as normal, even desirable behavior.
That is what is most upsetting to me. Whether you understand it or not, YOUR children are being targeted by the pro-homosexual community to indoctrinate them almost from birth that this choice of sexual relationship is normal, acceptable, and desirable. They have done this through infiltrating the school curriculum with pro-homosexual material, they have done this through the 3,000+ "gay clubs" in schools all over the nation, and they have masterfully used the media (TV, movies, Internet, music) to, day after day after day tell the world there is nothing wrong with this choice of sexuality.
It is very disturbing to hear a 14-year-old boy, a 15-year-old girl claiming to be gay or lesbian. When pressed if they were actually having sex they usually say no. The fact is, a 14-year-old boy or a 15-year-old girl are no more gay or lesbian than I am a giraffe! Just because I call myself a giraffe doesn't make me one. They have simply bought into the "gay lie" that is being promoted by the pro-homosexual community and told loud enough, often enough in our society that these CHILDREN have this warped idea they are something other than how God created them. GOD DID NOT CREATE MEN TO HAVE SEX WITH MEN, OR WOMEN TO HAVE SEX WITH WOMEN! Those who do are committing unnatural acts in complete rebellion to God.
Let me say right up front, sin is sin in God's eyes. No sin is greater than another. The sin of homosexuality is no more, or no less a sin than murder, adultery, stealing, lying, gossiping, or gluttony. THE REASON THIS SIN IS BEING SINGLED OUT AND ADDRESSED IS BECAUSE THOSE WHO COMMIT IT, ARE PROUD OF THEIR SIN AND PROMOTE IT AS AN ACCEPTABLE LIFESTYLE!
People who commit adultery do NOT have parades to celebrate their sin. People who commit murder do NOT have political action committees to make murder legal and socially acceptable. People who steal do not have high school clubs and try to teach children that stealing is acceptable behavior. Homosexuality is a SIN in the eyes of God and is something to be ashamed of, NOT proud of.
Theologically this is not even a debatable issue. All through the Bible, from the Old Testament through the New, homosexuality is defined by God as a sin, PERIOD. God calls it an ABOMINATION! I have heard the tortured theological arguments homosexuals have made, but there is absolutely NO WAY to change the fact this act is a sin. Just because there is now a homosexual version of the Bible where they have literally changed the passages that call this act a sin, that does NOT change God's inspired, inerrant Word.
Just because there is a fast growing homosexual denomination, the Metropolitan Community of Churches, that does NOT change the fact God calls this act a sin. I can guarantee you if I started a church that taught adultery was acceptable and wonderful behavior, I could fill stadiums on Sunday morning! THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN CHANGE THE FACT GOD CALLS HOMOSEXUALITY A SIN!!!
The two greatest lies the pro-homosexual community has put out are that 1) homosexuality is something that you are "born with," 2) 10% or more in our society are homosexual. First, modern science has CLEARLY rejected and been unable to prove that ANYONE is "born gay." IT IS A CHOICE!!!! GOD DID NOT MAKE ANYONE "GAY!" PEOPLE CHOOSE TO ENGAGE IN HOMOSEXUAL BEHAVIOR!!!! LIKE ALL SIN, ONCE YOU DO IT LONG ENOUGH, IT MAY SEEM 'NATURAL', BUT IT IS STILL A CHOICE THAT YOU MAKE. The "struggle" people who choose this sin speak of is the same "struggle" we all have, to obey God or to sin! Also, all legitimate studies done by the non-homosexual community clearly show that less then 1% of the population EVER engage in this type of sexual sin.
A foolish argument from those who choose this sin is that "why would anyone choose something that brought them ridicule, condemnation, and the hatred of so many?" People make that choice every day! I deal daily with men and women who CHOOSE to commit adultery and destroy their marriage, lose the love and respect of their children, in many cases ruin their career. People who choose sin choose to deal with the consequences of their sin.
Of course, anyone who dares to speak up on this issue is labeled as "intolerant" and a "homophobe." I find it amusing that Dr. Laura, who correctly pointed out that homosexuality is a deviant lifestyle, had her television program targeted and eventually taken off the air by the homosexual community. So this group that calls for tolerance by others, is very INTOLERANT when someone opposes their views. They also use the word "homophobe" to intimidate people from speaking out against their sexual choice.
I love you and care about you so much. Pray for the Hubley family as they mourn their loss. Every parent needs to be aware that your sons and daughters are being taught engaging in sex with a person of the same-sex is the "in thing." Lastly, you better be VERY AWARE of what is on television, in music, and out in the culture that is constantly sending the message to your children that homosexuality is a normal and acceptable CHOICE!
The church better wake up and realize that while they have been building great buildings and getting fat, satan has been busy using the sin of homosexuality to destroy the lives of our children. As much of an abomination as homosexual churches are, equally as abominable to God are regular churches that accept homosexuality as a normal lifestyle!
We live in a free society. If people who have chosen to engage in homosexual activity want to have their own schools, their own churches, their own television network, they have every right to. It is about time the church wakes up and realizes that those who promote this sin are bold and are stopping at NOTHING to get their message out to the masses, and targeting the children!
THAT is why I am always talking about how the church, those who know Christ as their Savior, have got to quit preaching to the choir and start taking the hope and love of Christ to the world at large. As those who follow Christ, we also have a responsibility to pray for those who are in this bondage, for God to open their hearts to the truth of His Word, and to turn from their sin. Only God can change hearts, and for those who are in bondage to the sin of homosexuality, we must pray for them to open their hearts and turn from their sin.
Until Jesus returns, we will always have those who choose a perverted form of sex with those of their own gender, just like we will always have those who choose to pervert sex by having it outside of the bonds of marriage. While we can never accept their choice since it is clearly against God's Word, we must pray for them, just like we must pray for everyone who is battling sin in their life.
For those reading this who are currently fighting homosexuality, let me tell you that God has never stopped loving you, and is simply waiting for you to turn from your sin and come back to Him. We serve a God of deliverance from sin, a God of forgiveness, and a God of restoration. Millions have turned from the sin of homosexuality and found complete restoration and fulfillment in living a life according to God's plan. What He did for someone else, He can do for you! I pray today that you hear these words, and choose to find freedom from your sin today. That freedom is only a prayer away!
In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller (bkeller@liveprayer.com, who can ALSO be found on "FACEBOOK," under www.liveprayer.com. If THAT doesn't work, just simply type in his above-mentioned e-mail and find him THAT way.)
Dude. Seriously do you have a single thought of your own or can you only regurgitate other peoples ideas?
I CERTAINLY HOPE NOT, NOR do I hope that I'm "REGURGITATING," as YOU put it, ANYONE ELSE'S, just as I'm ABSOLUTELY SURE that the MESSAGE-ORIGINATOR ISN'T, EITHER.
Question: "Is Jesus the only way to Heaven?"
Answer: "I'm basically a good person, so I'll go to heaven." "OK, so I do some bad things, but I do more good things, so I'll go to heaven." "God won't send me to hell just because I don't live by the Bible. Times have changed!" "Only really bad people like child molesters and murderers go to hell."
These are all common rationalizations, but the truth is that they are all lies. Satan, the ruler of the world, plants these thoughts in our heads. He, and anyone who follows his ways, is an enemy of God (1Peter 5:8). Satan is a deceiver and often disguises himself as someone good (2 Corinthians 11:14), but he has control over all the minds that do not belong to God. "The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God" (2 Corinthians 4:4).
It is a lie to believe that God doesn't care about small sins or that hell is reserved for "bad people." All sin separates us from God, even a “little white lie.” Everyone has sinned, and no one is good enough to get to heaven on their own (Romans 3:23). Getting into heaven is not based on whether our good outweighs our bad; we will all lose out if that is the case. "And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace" (Romans 11:6). We can do nothing good to earn our way to heaven (Titus 3:5).
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it" (Matthew 7:13). Even if everyone else is living a life of sin in a culture where trusting in God is not popular, God will not excuse it. "As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient" (Ephesians 2:1-2).
When God created the world, it was perfect and good. Then he made Adam and Eve and gave them their own free will, so they would have a choice whether to follow and obey God. But they were tempted by Satan to disobey God, and they sinned. This separated them (and everyone that came after them, including us) from being able to have a close relationship with God. He is perfect and holy and must judge sin. As sinners, we couldn't reconcile ourselves to God on our own. So God made a way that we could be united with Him in heaven. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16). "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 6:23). Jesus was born to die for our sins so that we would not have to. Three days after His death, He rose from the grave (Romans 4:25), proving Himself victorious over death. He bridged the gap between God and man so that we may have a personal relationship with Him if we only believe.
"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent" (John 17:3). Most people believe in God, even Satan does. But to receive salvation, we must turn to God, form a personal relationship, turn away from our sins, and follow Him. We must trust in Jesus with everything we have and everything we do. "This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference" (Romans 3:22). The Bible teaches that there is no other way to salvation than through Christ. Jesus says in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Jesus is the only way of salvation because He is the only One who can pay our sin penalty (Romans 6:23). No other religion teaches the depth or seriousness of sin and its consequences. No other religion offers the infinite payment of sin that only Jesus Christ could provide. No other “religious founder” was God become man (John 1:1,14) – the only way an infinite debt could be paid. Jesus had to be God so that He could pay our debt. Jesus had to be man so He could die. Salvation is available only through faith in Jesus Christ! “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).
Have you made a decision for Christ because of what you have read here? If so, please go to http://www.gotquestions.org/questweek.html, scroll to the bottom of the page and click on the "I have accepted Christ today" button.
Recommended Resource: Jesus Among Other gods by Ravi Zacharias.
The ORIGINAL MESSAGE was posted on the www.liveprayer.com site in 2008.
Pope Benedict XVI Comes to the United States
(John 17:21; 2 Timothy 3:16; Ephesians 2:8,9; 1 Corinthians 1:10)
Pope Benedict XVI comes to the United States! As someone who for nearly 2 decades now has rebuked and rejected those extremists who call the Roman Catholic Church a cult, the "whore of Babylon," the anti-Christ," I have also rebuked and rejected the extremists on the other side who made the claim that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church and that you are not even saved unless you are part of that church. Both sides are equally wrong! In a document released last July, Pope Benedict XVI, the head of 1.1 billion Catholics worldwide, stated that, "other Christian communities are either defective or not true churches and Catholicism provides the only true path to salvation." This is not true and I pray that during his visit, the Pope will correct this Biblically false statement.
This is a perfect example why I share with you so often that our final authority in all matters is the BIBLE, not whatever some man, even the Pope, says. Liveprayer mounted a major prayer effort as this new Pope was being elected and asked God to bless his time of leadership. The Pope is a man, no more special than any other man or woman God calls to serve Him. He is flesh and bone, fallible and a sinner like all men are. I remember specifically praying that he would have a heart and passion to see the lost won for Christ. Sola scriptura, "by Scripture alone," was a foundational doctrinal principle of Martin Luther's reformation. There is no other authority outside of God's Word, and any teachings in contradiction to the Bible are heresy!
The Bible teaches that the church (ekklesia) is a body of Believers. The true church according to Scriptures is made up of those who have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior and hold the Bible to be God's inspired, inerrant Word, representing Absolute Truth and our final authority in all matters. We read in the Book of Acts about the first church birthed in Jerusalem, and churches began to spring up all over the known world as the Gospel of Jesus Christ was being preached. It was nearly 400 years AD before what we know of today as the Roman Catholic Church emerged. By that time, there were already thousands of Christian churches established throughout the world. What makes a true Christian church is faith in Jesus Christ and adherence to the Bible as God's Word. So for Pope Benedict to state that all non-Roman Catholic churches are not true churches is a lie and not what the Bible teaches.
Most troubling, however, is the Pope's claim that salvation is only achieved through the Roman Catholic Church. I hate to give the Pope a Theology 101 lesson, but there is only one way to be saved and that is through faith in Jesus Christ alone. Period! NO CHURCH CAN SAVE YOU! NO AMOUNT OF GOOD WORKS CAN SAVE YOU! Sola fides, "by faith alone." The only way a person can be saved is by giving their heart and life to Jesus by faith working in conjunction with God's grace (Ephesians 2:8,9). This notion that being part of a church can save you is not only anti-Biblical, it is pure blasphemy! In essence, what Pope Benedict is saying is that anyone outside of the Roman Catholic Church is not saved! That is NOT what the Bible teaches and is the type of statement I would expect out of a cult leader, not the head of the world's 1.1 billion Catholics!
As a side note, just last year Pope Benedict correctly stated that Islam was spread by violence and this false religions founder, Mohammed, was "evil." Sadly, he later apologized and even went to visit a Mosque in a peace making effort to those who are following the lies of Islam to hell. I chastised the Pope at the time for being a coward and apologizing for simply telling the truth, and further chastised him for visiting a Mosque for any other reason except to tell those following the lies of Islam how to be saved. It appears now that the Pope doesn't even know how to be saved and I wonder if he is trusting Jesus by faith or his church for his own salvation? I find it very troubling that the Pope would seek to placate those who are following the false religion of Islam to the depths of hell, yet has no problem telling Bible-believing Christians who have put their faith in Jesus Christ that unless they are part of the Roman Catholic Church they are not saved!
With over 200,000 of the apx 2.4 million subscribers to the Daily Devotional being part of the Roman Catholic Church, I am already prepared for the onslaught of hatred that will be heading my way in the coming days. That saddens me since one of the things I am most grateful for is how God has used Liveprayer to bring unity to the badly divided Body of Christ. Over 1/3 of those who receive the Daily Devotional each day are not Christians. Of the 2/3 who are, they are equally divided among those who go to Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Independent, and Catholic Churches. Ever since I started my public ministry in 1992, one of my greatest "big picture" goals was to help bring the Body of Christ together as one as our Lord prayed in John 17 just hours before going to the cross. Dividing the Body is something satan has been doing since the first church in the Book of Acts, what Paul warned about quite often in his letters to the churches, and what makes Christ's church so weak and ineffective today.
You see, my message then and my message now has really never changed. It is a universal message that plays to people in and out of the church. "If you don't know Jesus by faith you need to make the decision for Him today. If you do know the Lord, you need to fully surrender your life and allow Him to use you. No matter what problems you may be facing in your life today, Jesus is the answer!" As I have shared with you often, when you die, there will be only two lines in Heaven, There won't be a line for Whites and one for Blacks. There won't be a line for Catholics and one for Protestants. There will be one line for those who know Jesus Christ as their Savior by faith, and one for those who do not! Trust me, when you take your last breath and stand before God, He is not going to ask you the name of the church you went to, only if you know Jesus as your Savior by faith!
In dealing with a worldwide audience of over 2.4 million people every day, I am VERY well aware of the incredible divisions there are in Christ's Body. Perhaps no division is as great as the one between Catholics and non-Catholics. The fact is, the Roman Catholic Church has a long and well-documented history. However, the reality is, it is simply a denomination or group of churches, no different than a group of Southern Baptist, United Methodist, or Assemblies of God Churches. Each group of churches or denominations has their own rich heritage, traditions, and leaders. The critical point is that while each group of churches or denominations have their own unique differences in regard to different doctrinal issues, what makes them CHRISTIAN churches are the foundational element of the Christian faith. Who Jesus Christ is, that salvation is through faith in Christ alone, and the Bible is God's inspired, inerrant Word and our final authority in all matters.
THE ONE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS NOT A GROUP OF CHURCHES OR A DENOMINATION OR A BUILDING, IT IS MADE UP OF EVERY PERSON WHO HAS ACCEPTED JESUS CHRIST INTO THEIR HEARTS AND LIVES BY FAITH!!!
Now, let me address some of the issues about the Roman Catholic Church that have led many who know the Lord to leave that church and has caused much of the division with non-Catholics. Three of the 700+ retired ministers who serve the Lord by helping me each day respond to the over 40,000 emails that we receive are Roman Catholic Priests. Over my years of ministry, I have personally preached in over 1/2 dozen Catholic Churches
(and I can assure you that I shared the unadulterated truth of the Gospel and gave an altar call as I do whenever I preach in public), and the best we can tell, approx. 200,000 of the 2.4 million plus subscribers to the Daily Devotional are Catholics. I have read and studied the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church and as a student of church history am very well aware of what the Catholic Church teaches.
The problem most non-Catholics have with the Catholic Church is what I call their non-Biblical traditions, which by the way, ALL groups of churches or denominations have. I don't have the time to go through a complete list but the main ones are how they deal with the mother of Jesus, Mary. She was a virgin when she was immaculately conceived by the Holy Spirit, however, she was a person of flesh and blood like you and I and was born with sin just like you and I were. She also had other children as we know from the Scriptures. There is nothing wrong with honoring her for the incredible role God chose her to play in her life, but she is NOT a deity and praying to her is as meaningless as it is to pray to any other person who is dead (including those the Catholic Church has deemed to be "saints") or alive. There is only ONE person we pray to and that is Jesus.
Another big issue in the Catholic Church is Communion. The tradition of the Catholic Church is that the wafer representing the body of our Lord and the wine representing His blood literally becomes the body and blood of Christ. That is a very real theological argument that Scripture does not support, but I don't see that as an area for major contention. The Bible exhorts us to take Communion often in remembrance of the sacrifice of our Lord and there are those who believe based on certain verses it becomes the literal body and blood of Christ. Another issue that I don't think is that important is confessing your sins to a Priest. The Bible tells us to confess our sins one to another, so there is nothing wrong if it is your Priest you choose to do that with. However, please understand that NO MAN, only Jesus can forgive you of your sins since it was only Jesus who died for your sins.
Another issue that is critical to talk about is salvation. There are some who teach in error (just like some non-Catholic churches do) that you can do enough good works to earn your way into Heaven which is clearly refuted by Ephesians 2:8-9. Those who teach this point to the passage in James that "Faith without works is dead." The fact is that passage was written to people who were already saved. The Bible clearly teaches that a person who is truly saved will have "fruit" or good works follow them. These good works do not save them but flow from their salvation.
Lastly is the Bible. The Catholic Bible has 6 historical books known as the Apocrypha that deal with those 400 years from the end of Malachi, the end of the Old Testament, to the start of the New Testament. These books were never found to be inspired or inerrant and thus are not part of the 66 books we call the Bible. The Bible is God's inspired, inerrant Word, representing Absolute Truth and our final authority in all matters. It, and it alone is our authority and overrides any teachings or traditions of man.
Since the 1970's, there has been a very active and growing Charismatic group within the Roman Catholic Church that is as Pentecostal as any Pentecostal Church you will ever attend. Also, in the past 10 years, there is a growing and strong evangelical movement within the Catholic Church. They are working within the Church to bring back a greater emphasis on the Word of God and on the message of salvation and less emphasis on the traditions of the Catholic Church. Many people who know Christ as their Savior by faith have chosen to stay in the Catholic Church. They are just as saved, love the Lord, and honor His Word as much as anyone who attends a non-Catholic Church.
Are there people in the Catholic Church who aren't saved? Of course! Just like there are people in any church who are not saved. My friend, your Catholic church can't save you, your Methodist Church can't save you, your Baptist Church can't save you, your Pentecostal Church can't save you, only faith in Jesus Christ can save you! Being baptized can't save you, the faith of your parents can't save you, no amount of good works can save you, ONLY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST CAN SAVE YOU!!!
I love you and care about you so much. I watch daily as satan works to divide the Body of Christ, and perhaps there is no division as great as the one between Catholics and non-Catholics. Pope Benedict greatly contributed to that division last summer by stating that all non-Catholic churches are not true churches and you can only be saved through the Roman Catholic Church. If the Pope really believes this, he is in complete rebellion to what the Bible teaches! Catholics around the world who have a real relationship with Christ MUST SPEAK OUT! You cannot let the heresy of one man, even the Pope, turn your great church which is based on God's Word into a cult. That is why God gave us His Word, so that we don't have to rely on what men say, but on what He says!
My greatest prayer of all is that during his visit, as tens of thousands of people gather to hear the Pope, tens of millions more watching by television, that he would clearly lay out the fact that we are saved by our faith in Christ alone and challenge all who hear him to surrender their hearts and lives by faith to Jesus. It could be the greatest altar call ever given if he would let the Holy Spirit guide him and use him to bring the greatest truth of all to those who will be listening to him speak.
Martin Luther's break with the Catholic Church took place at a time when the Catholic Church was more of a political entity than a spiritual one. Luther wanted to get back to the foundation of the faith, that being salvation is through God's grace and our faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), or sola fides, and the final authority of God's Word, or sola scriptura. What makes us Christians is that we are bonded by the shed blood of Jesus Christ and God's Word, not the teachings of men or the name on the building we choose to worship in, but the Truth of the Bible and our faith in Jesus Christ!!!
Fuck you sideways in the fucking neck with a fucking live octipus you biggoted homophobic lying jesus blowing son-of-a-bitch mornon, asshole, dick, cunt, motherfucker. I can't sum it up any better than that. That is the best and most thoughtful sentence you deserve. You are so ignorant, and so is that so-called preacher you can only copy and paste for lack of independent thought capability on your part, that you do not even deserve for the more intelligent among us to spit on you; let alone talk to you.
SPEAKING of MORMANISM:
THIS, ALSO, was originally posted on www.liveprayer.com in 2008.
Romney's Big Speech (LIE)
(Galatians 1:9)
***LAST MAY, I was the first national Christian leader to speak out against Mitt Romney due to the fact he was part of the satanic Mormon cult, though like all Mormons, he tried to pass himself off as a Christian. Even worse than standing alone on this issue, was the fact many key evangelical leaders turned Judas and sold out Christ to back this cult member's bid for the White House. Millions of souls were potentially saved from going to hell when Romney withdrew, however, he is now being pushed in many circles to be Sen. John McCain's Vice President. What a great election if that occurs. Senator John McCain, who will never champion the spiritual issues that plague this nation with a running mate who is part of a satanic cult on one side, and a man who is selling himself as a Christian yet has beliefs and positions totally inconsistent with that of a Christian on the other. So I wanted to take you back to last December, and a Devotional I wrote 48 hours BEFORE Mitt Romney gave his big "faith speech" (LIE). In light of the possibility of him being named as Sen. McCain's running mate, I think it is important to remind you of exactly who Mitt Romney is.
Romney's big speech (LIE). This morning, Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney will give his much anticipated speech regarding his Mormon faith, much like the "faith speech" John Kennedy gave in 1960 during his bid for the Presidency over the concern people had with him being a Roman Catholic. I am writing this 48 hours BEFORE Romney gives his speech and I can assure you that the Romney campaign has not given me of all people an advanced copy of the speech he'll deliver, nor do I need any prophetic gift to share with you what the former Massachusetts Governor is going to say Thursday morning.
Let me say right up front that even though I was the first high profile Christian to publicly speak out against Romney's candidacy due to the fact he is part of a satanic cult, my motives have nothing to do with politics but with the eternal souls of men. I have been consistent from the moment I spoke out against Romney that this was not about his politics but the fact he is an active and loyal member of a satanic cult that is leading the souls of men to hell. All I have ever asked the former Governor of Massachusetts to do is to be HONEST about what "his faith" as he calls it really believes, and to stop lying to the people that he is a Christian.
Any layman with zero theological training can quickly understand that the god and jesus of Mormon theology are NOT the God and Jesus of the Bible, and that the final theological authority of the Mormon cult, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants, are totally inconsistent with what the Bible teaches. Mormonism and Christianity are NOT the same or even similar, but two competing beliefs. I could care less if Mitt Romney wears magical underwear 24/7, denies the deity of Christ and thinks he is the spirit brother of Lucifer, and believes he will die and become the god of his own planet with many women waiting to have sex with him to create an endless supply of spirit babies.
ALL I HAVE EVER ASKED IS THAT HE IS HONEST ABOUT WHAT HE BELIEVES AND TO QUIT TRYING AND DECEIVE PEOPLE INTO THINKING THAT HE IS A CHRISTIAN, SINCE BASED ON THE BELIEFS OF THE MORMON CULT, A MORMON IS NO MORE A CHRISTIAN THAN A MUSLIM IS!!!
I can assure you 100% that his speech Thursday will be nothing but a BIG LIE! He can't help it. That is what Mormon's have done since Joey Smith founded this cult nearly 200 years ago. Let's look at where he is giving this speech. He will deliver this speech in College Station, Texas from the library of former President Bush (41) who will also introduce him. If Mitt Romney was going to give an honest speech on what his cult believes, he would be delivering this speech from the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City, Utah!!!
I can also assure you that Romney will not be alone at this speech. There is no doubt that prominently displayed will be his wife Ann and their five sons. DO NOT BE FOOLED! This man is a master of deception and he is banking on the Biblical and theological illiteracy of the masses, along with the powerful visual of he, his wife of 39 years, and their 5 great looking sons as a snapshot of what the All-American CHRISTIAN family looks like.
I can assure you Romney will NOT talk about the specific beliefs of the Mormon cult. He can't, since again, it will become apparent immediately to anyone listening that the beliefs of the Mormon cult are totally inconsistent with Biblical Christianity. But don't worry, you will hear him talk about his belief in God and his faith in Jesus Christ and that he reads the Bible. Don't be deceived!!! The god of Mormon theology is NOT the God of the Bible. The jesus of Mormon theology is NOT the Jesus of the Bible. The Bible is believed by Mormons to be flawed, apostate, not complete, and is not Truth or their final theological authority!
I can assure you the bulk of his speech will focus on how important his faith is to him and his family, how it guides him in every aspect of his life ( though I wonder why he used to support the slaughter of innocent babies other than it was politically expedient), family values, and he will then proceed to try and bully and intimidate people like myself into silence by calling those who try to hold him accountable a bigot, intolerant, and un-American. I have told you before that those who have bought into the lies of satan will always try to silence people who have the guts to confront them and their lies publicly. Romney will attempt to do this by playing into the politically correct mindset most people have adopted by reinforcing that in this country we have the freedom to worship and anyone who demeans people based on their religious beliefs are the real villains.
Nice attempt to change the issue since nobody, especially me, is trying to stop Mitt Romney from believing whatever he wants or worshipping however he chooses. All I am asking him to do is simply stop lying to people and be HONEST about what his beliefs are and stop trying to deceive people into thinking he is a Christian, when his beliefs are not based on the Bible but the ramblings of his cult's founder Joey Smith. Please don't forget, Romney is not some passive, pew-sitting Mormon. He is a Temple Mormon. He was a bishop in that cult, and his family has a long history of active leadership.
He will be taking advantage of the fact that the largest percentage of the last two generations have never been to church, that even most Christians have been under such poor and compromised teaching that they don't know the difference between a Christian and Mormon, and you will hear him cry out for "tolerance for others' beliefs" over and over. This is not about tolerating Romney's beliefs, it is about him being honest about what he believes.
What sickens me most is that fact that I am 100% certain he has received input from many Christians who are supporting his candidacy. I have already listed the more prominent Christians who have sold out Christ and decided short term political power is more important than the souls of men. People like Jay Sekulow, Mark DeMoss, Ralph Reed, Bob Jones III, Paul Weyrich, are just a few high profile Christians who are supporting Romney. Instead of helping to lead this man to a place where he denounces the Mormon cult and truly make a profession of faith in the true Jesus we find in the Bible, they are willing participants in Romney's bid to deceive people Thursday into thinking he is a Christian. They will die one day and stand before God and have to answer for being a modern day Judas.
I love you and care about you so much. Mitt Romney went into this campaign with a very clever strategy
of courting the evangelical Christian vote that put our current President in the White House for 2 terms. He bought and paid for a few high profile Christian leaders to give credibility to the lie that he is a Christian and deliver that vote. It has been the relentless efforts of a few people like myself and many faithful pastors around the country who have tried to educate people that a Mormon is NOT a Christian, but the member of a satanic cult leading the souls of men to hell with their false theology.
In the past few months we have seen the incredible rise of former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee. Huckabee, a former Baptist preacher really is a Christian. It seems many Christians across the country are starting to rally behind Huckabee and Romney is slipping in the polls, seeing his ace-in-the-hole, the Christian vote, moving towards Huckabee. Trust me, this speech Thursday is one Romney was hoping to NEVER have to give. As I type these words today, I believe that this speech will be the end of Romney's bid for the White House in '08, even though he has the financial resources to stay in the race right up to the nomination next summer.
Many are comparing this speech to the speech then Democratic Presidential nominee John Kennedy gave in 1960 regarding the fact he was a Roman Catholic. While there had never been a Roman Catholic President prior to Kennedy, despite the many unbiblical man-made traditions of the RC Church, they still believe in the Bible alone and only faith in Jesus Christ can save your soul. Kennedy wasn't part of a satanic cult founded by a con artist 200 years ago who supposedly had an angel lead him to gold tablets in the Catskills. Smith dreamed up this new religion that was immediately rejected by the true church of his day as a heretical cult. His cult has strived for mainstream acceptance during its nearly 200 year history and has never hesitated to lie about what they really believed in order to pass themselves off as simply "another Christian church." This speech is not analogous to the Kennedy speech in any way.
What is going to be Romney's ultimate downfall will be the backlash from those within his cult. They are already terribly upset with him for not being more bold about their cults' beliefs. In trying to court the Christian vote, Romney has repeatedly lied without conscience about what Mormons really believe, much to the chagrin of most Mormons who saw Romney as the man who would fulfill Smith's ultimate vision of turning this country into a Mormon theocracy. If Romney would be elected President, his advisors would not be his cabinet in Washington DC, but the elders of his cult in Salt Lake City! One post on the blog Mormon Mentality condemned Romney for being "evasive," while another complained, "If he were so proud to be a Mormon, he should tell the truth." I agree!
So get ready Thursday for this very carefully thought out and choreographed speech (LIE). The bottom line is you will NOT hear about what Romney's "faith," the Mormon cult really believes, though you will hear how important his "faith" is to him and his family. You will hear him use the name of God and Jesus and Bible over and over, but don't be fooled because he is NOT talking about the God of the Bible, the Jesus of the Bible, and won't tell you he really believes the Bible to be a flawed and inferior book. Ultimately, it will be Romney's last attempt to silence people like myself by calling us bigots, intolerant, and other names, while he parades his wife and children before the cameras and tries to pass he and his family off as "just another Christian family."
Any true member of the Mormon cult should be outraged by Romney's speech Thursday since it will be obvious he is ashamed to tell the American people what his church really believes. Likewise, all Christians should be outraged that the member of a satanic cult will have the audacity to stand before the American people and lie without conscience as he tries to pass himself off as a Christian. All any Mormon or Christian really wants is for Mitt Romney to simply tell the truth about what his beliefs are. Since I know he won't, I have for you.
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller
OK, time for me to put this shit-for-brains on ignore.
To the previous poster, I did that a long time ago. Didn't ignore the board posts for shits and giggles. just LMAO to all of this. Wow ... I'm off to do something more productive.
Wow.....Just wow. I have to honestly ask you mygodchosenbride& what your motive for posting all of this "truth" is exactly. I don't know much about the Catholics, or Politics, but I know quite a bit about the LDS church, and I'm mystified by this preacher's unsited and false beliefs about the church. Read any talk by our president, or any other general authority and you would be very hard-pressed to think we weren't Christian. Do we have additional scriptures? Absolutely. Do we believe that they replace the bible? No. They are another testament of Jesus Christ, not "the only" testament. We believe that in so much as it is translated correctly, the Bible is the word of God, as written by the hands of men. God did not write the bible. But he did inspire its writings, just like the Book of Mormon, and the rest.
Frankly, the only thing I think this man is bang on about is that for the most part, it doesn't really matter which church you join, so long as you have faith in, and a testimony of Jesus Christ. Where it does matter which church you belong to comes from the varying teachings each church holds. The Wester Burrough Baptists for instance preach a doctrine of hatred and condemnation against all homosexuals; casting judgements on those whom it is not their rite to judge, and for the wrong reasons. I'm not going to get into which church is true; it doesn't really matter. But I will say that I would caution anyone against following the teachings of anyone, church or preacher who preaches a doctrine of hatred intolerance. For that is not the Lords doctrine, but rather the philosophies of men, mingled with scripture.
In the end I only have one question for you mygodchosenbride, and I'd like you, not Bill to answer it for me. Is is writing these articles this man's job? Is this how he makes his living?
BG, your god got a lot wrong then, because there is no archaeological evidence whatsoever of Hebrew tribes in North America thousands of years ago. None.
Please forgive and bare with the following wall of text.
I suppose the lack of evidence about ancient civilizations on North America depends on who you ask, and how trustworthy they are. I mean sure, I saw that documentary where certain Christians and x-Mormons picked apart the historical accuracy of the Book of Mormon. What struck me with it is how they highlighted only certain passages of scripture, but left other words in those same verses unhighlighted. There was an agenda behind it that film, but we won't get into conspiracy theory.
All I know is I'm no archeologist. Are you? (Honest question, because for all I know you might be.) It just so happens I have heard of evidence to support the presence of people well before the activities of Mr. Christopher Columbus his own exploratory self. And yes, some of those do in fact support the idea that there were full-blown civilizations before hand. I mean the Native Americans had this continent, and they are hardly the savages the media portrays them to be. Were they the remnant of those ancient people? Maybe, maybe not.
there will always be those who come up with ways to see around even the most compelling evidence. If an angel - if Jesus Christ himself descended to the earth, I can personally garintee there would be people who would try and explain it away. That's just what people do when confronted by a truth that they do not wish to accept. The anti-LDS literature out there really is quite compelling sometimes; so is everything I've read which confirms my beliefs. It all comes down to two things; Faith, of course *pauses for the eyeroll* and an openness to see more than negative. If you go in search of material to disprove a claim, you'll almost always find it, and you'll cling to it as gospel truth even though there are opposing factors to consider. I mean look at the news these days. You don't just rely on Fox News as the be all and end all authority. I suppose the same could be said about my own claims; and that's fine. You Impricator, as I gather from your many, many statements against it, are not in the least religious. Thus it's hardly surprising that you find compelling evidence to discount my beliefs. Seeing disturbing passages in the bible, and seeing hatred, violence and intolerance preached by religion? All of that does exist. And it's hard to see anything else after that. I know. I was never an actual atheist, but I was a skeptical agnaustic. But these days I have a testimony of Jesus Christ - if perhaps not as strong of one as some others. I have read the bible, the Book of Mormon, their companions, and many of the talks presented by my churches inspired leaders who devote their life (without a shred of payment for it) to discovering the mysteries of the scriptures. I have attended the temple seremonies, and yes, I have prayed for divine inspiration. To me, the evidence which names the LDS beliefs as not only Christian, but the fully restored realization of that Christianity is overwhelming. Am I going to tell any other Christian they're wrong and I'm right? I certainly hope not, because that's not going to be good for anyone involved. It isn't even that cut and dry anyway. Are there passages in the bible - and even the Book of Mormon which make me question some of God's actions? You better believe it. And so that's why I ask a lot of questions. And eight times out of ten, the answers I receive about such passages make a lot of sense. The Book of Mormon, Bible, Pearl of Great Price and Doctrine and Covenants are not all one book, but they are meant to be studied together; cross-referenced and pondered together. They compliment one another, and bring clarity when there may be confusion. The Book is not replacing the bible, but acting as a companion to it. This man saying Mormons are a Satanic cult who doesn't even follow Jesus is mistaken - whether because he just doesn't like us, or because he hasn't taken the time to understand us.
Impricator, I know you, lightning and others don't see it that way, and that's fine. You take what scripture you have read at face value; just as I did for many, many years. You want inexplicable evidence before you believe. Maybe you even think God is terrible for the things you see happening in the byble by his hand, and in the world in his name. And all of that is fair. But what you might not realize is people like me, we have our inexplicable evidence. It just differs from yours.
But you know Impricator, maybe you and Lightning are right. Maybe the Book of Mormon and the man who translated it are just fraudulent. Maybe there really is no evidence to the contrary. And maybe all the work that has been done to cross-reference the bible with other scriptures just amounts to a lot of compelling, convenient coincidence. I don't believe that, but I'm willing to entertain it. Maybe I'm extremely misguided. But if that turns out to be true in the end, it won't matter. I'll be disappointed, certainly. But there is one thing I am absolutely, 100% convinced of. There is much more to our existence than just this brief fifty to a hundred years we live as humans. How do I know? How can I possibly be that sure? Simply the overwhelming amount of differing beliefs! which, while sometimes contentious, always agree on that one factor. I've heard stories, done research and studied - though not in-depth - different cultures. In the face of all that, the belief that this small life is all we have, and that there is no point to any of it is lost in a sea of possibilities. Sure, some of these things I've read up on and have heard are false; that's inevitable. But all of it? No. I don't think so. is it scientific evidence? Not yet. But even science believes in things that are here-to-for unexplained. Half of what we take for granted today would have been considered purely fantastical even fifty years ago. We aren't meant to know everything all at once. I don't think we could handle it to be honest. And so if the book of Mormon, the Bible, and even Jesus Christ himself end up being false, it really will be okay, because by living in harmony with their teachings, I will have been kind to others, grown spiritually, and lived a fulfilling, wonderful life. Can an Atheist not do the same? Of course they can. Maybe there is a difference; maybe there isn't. But when the time comes to leave this mortal coil for whatever awaits, it's going to be interesting to see how an atheist feels. Is an Atheist going to burn forever in a lake of fire? I don't know for sure, but I seriously doubt it. For one thing, both I and my church believe the concept of hell to be a state, rather than an actual physical place of searing fire. There will undoubtedly be torment, and that torment might be likened unto an unquenchable fire, but as far as I understand it, it will come more as a realization of how far we have fallen, with nobody to pick us up, and the knowledge of what could have been had we lived differently. But we will have the opportunity to exercise free will in the hereafter, as we do now; and as we did before we were born. I just think it might be harder to accept things as they are in the hereafter if you've devoted your entire belief system to discounting anything but oblivion. But If you lived your life in accordance to the belief that there's nothing beyond, and you woke up, how would you feel about it? That's an honest question, and I'd really like it if you took the time to answer it. I'm not trying to convert you, or even make you believe. I'm not here to say my way is the only way, or even the right way. But I hope you, and others will one day entertain the notion that there may be a lot more to our origins, and our existence than what you see in the here and now. And if you don't, that's fine. If you want to disagree, that too is fine. But don't tell me that my God got it wrong just because you haven't found any evidence to the contrary. Because I'm not some preacher rallying t
Because I'm not some preacher rallying the masses to become intolerant and vindictive towards our fellow man; I am me; an imperfect Christian striving every day to avoid being the kind of messed up and disrespectful person you atheists despise and I both despise.
Uh, no shit sherlock! Of course there were civilizations on this continent before Columbus. Mayans, Azteks, the native Americans as you say. But no Hebrews.
This cross-posting from third-party sources is precisely why I am considering ditching Facebook.
We have had broadcasting via various klaxon-like media for a century or more. The Internet has been refreshing, especially these types of forums and the social networks, in that it is the true history as it is being made: the thoughts and observations of people who are on the ground. Even before the Internet, the National Historical society has recognized diarists with their own special place, because much archaeological and historical evidence is pieced together from writings of the common people: people not paid for by organizations, kings, priests, gods, corporations, etc. People tell the story of life and history far better than does the inanimate machinery of institutions.
Inanimate machinery, designed and paid for by certain sectors, is what this poster is cross-posting.
I have said the same thing about either politics or the funny jokes / funny poodles shares on Facebook which now make up a majority of the news feed.
What drives an otherwise social animal to the klaxon, like a moth to light, I wonder? Or are people really convinced that the rest of us would rather hear what they can pipe in from the canned messages? That what they themselves have to say is not more important?
The Historical Society would disagree with you, if you really feel that way.
to answer the question of how I feel when I wake up knowing there's nothing beyond this life, it's such a liberating and awesome feeling; more so than I can express, in fact.
to have no doubt in my mind that I've done good for myself/the world around me, and continue to do so everyday based on nothing other than my own knowledge of what's right and how I like being treated, is honestly all I need. why anyone would even want/dream of a higher power being part of that is totally beyond my comprehension.
I, like Cody, am outspoken cause I want others to see that there are other ways of living happily that don't include religion.
That wasn't the question. He asked what we would think if we died, and then woke up somewhere else. My answer is in the form of another question: What would there be to wake up, and where is this somewhere else located?
my mistake.
but, to turn the tables, BG, what would you do if you discovered all this believing in a god, praying, church going you do wouldn't really get you anywhere? can you even find it in yourself to admit we're right? probably not.
I was chatting with some friends the other day, and they were talking about what they wanted in some kind of afterlife, usually all the things they desire and find interesting as an earthbound human. My question is not whether there is or isn't an afterlife, but more like, why would I want one. Here I am on earth, living my life and I'm supposed to have another life after my life and this next one doesn't end? What the fuck? What'll happen if I get bored and all the cool music and things I surround myself with in this afterlife just grow stale and dull. Nope, even if I don't get a lot of things done or develop a bucket list, this here earthly life is all I think I have, and when I'm done, I hope I'll be done.
Happy Heart, I believe I actually did admit that you all might be right in my last post. I know it was long, but I hope that little nugget didn't escape anyone's notice. Because even though I don't actually believe it, I also know I don't know everything, and so I really am willing to entertain that idea. I believe I also answered your question as to what I would do if this all turned out to be one big hoax. I mean no disrespect, but are you even bothering to read my words before you comment on them? If so, I'm sorry for doubting you, and maybe I need to be a little clearer. But I was pretty sure I was being so. Please clarify before I take the time to restate what I thought I had already made pretty clear.
In answer to your question Impricator, I don't really mind where you choose to wake up, because I was more interested in even the idea of anything else being beyond the death bed. If the knowledge that there is only a cessation of one's existence upon death is absolute, then what would happen if you lived your whole life according to the dictates of your own morality, but believed that nothing you did would matter (for you personally) beyond your death? I'm not trying to say you aren't an earthly citizen of good upstanding values; I really don't know much about you. And as I've said time and time again, I think an atheist can be just as altruistic and good-hearted as anyone else. I also know that our actions in life influence others around us, so you can make an impact that way. I'm talking about waking up after you thought everything was over, and nothing more would matter, only to discover that not only do you still exist, but that you also still possess your mind, beliefs and characteristics. Let's not worry right now about brain chemistry and how your mind still exists, even though that is certainly an interesting question, and one that I am looking forward to knowing the answer to. Let's just say that you do still exist. That is the context in which I ask the question.
That's a good question, Godzilla. That would be a worrisome thought. But if the alternative is nothing? I have to say that even as you guys can't conceive of an afterlife, I can't conceive of there being just ... nothing. I'm not even going by a religious standpoint here. Even at an early age, though I was scared to death of dying, I couldn't imagine "nothing". I'm not even sure what that would feel like. I mean would we be aware of our ... nothingness? Would there just be unending, timeless blackness? Would we even care? We're getting a little metaphysical here I think, but I really just can't wrap my head around the concept. And I'm really trying. we could go around in circles for days perhaps, but this really is hard to envision.
As far as my church is concerned, I'm not really sure how much we actually know for sure about what we'll actually do in all the differing degrees of the hereafter, but I do know that our knowledge, talents, experiences and personalities all have a purpose, and that purpose stretches into eternity. We never stop growing as beings of intelligence, knowledge and personality. It is called eternal progression, and though I can't really conceive its fullness, I find the possibilities a lot easier to comprehend than those associated with an absence of anything at all.
BG, I can comprehend things quite well, and wouldn't hesitate to ask for clarification if I needed it.
Chris said exactly what I meant to say: why would I even consider an afterlife, when focusing on enjoying this one is the most meaningful/fulfilling?
I don't wanna continue to exist after death; in all honesty, that's incredibly discomforting. if simply existing through what I've brought forth in this life isn't worthy enough for some people, so be it. it is for me, though, and I can't begin to imagine life any other way.
That's fine, Happy. But don't get me wrong. I may look forward towards the future, but I sure as heck enjoy my present. I whole-heartedly plan on doing both.
One great misunderstanding of the atheist persuasion is this belief that they think there is nothing afterwards, or that there is no continuation. Frequently they're insulted as shortsighted, etc.
We all, especially as we get older, have components we know we'll leave behind, and I've had the same sorts of conversations with atheists as well as people of one religious persuasion or another: What kind of world will we leave for our kids? How are we taking care of things so the grandkids and perhaps great-grandkids will experience this? Some religious people I know refer to it as 'leaving a legacy'. But anyway, these thoughts transcend spirituality.
In recent months my grandmother died. I'm 41 years old with a grandmother that was still alive? Really? That was inconceivable when we were kids. But that means my teenage daughter's great-grandmother was alive, and recently passed on. One of the things I was faced with thinking about is the whole idea of life beyond my daughter's debut into adulthood: What about her kids? their kids? Until recent months, there were four generations alive in the family albeit pretty spread out over the world. But if I can conceive of four, why not 8, or 16? Mathematically it's easy of course to conceptualize huge quantities in smaller units but just thinking about it from a man's perspective, or a human's rather, no intent on being sexist: I just had cause to contemplate all of this while working out. I know atheists who contemplate all of the same things. It causes us to reflect on how we do things, decisions we make as individuals.
The only people I know who basically don't do this are the fundamentalist extremists who believe there won't be a future generation and so may go as hog-wild with use of local resources as they wish.
Now let us pretend they're right: Well, my daughter will move out of our house sometime after high school, wants to live on her own like any normal healthy young woman would. So, in the spirit of these fundamentalists, what if she decided to go hog-wild with the resources she isn't paying for? Run up her phone? be careless and destructive with her electronics and other things? Burn holes in the carpet in her room? After all, she will be raptured from our home at some point, and so why bother with the mundane necessities of caring for what she has been given?
If anybody is shortsighted, it is two groups: The fundamentalists who are banking on a fifty-year window or so, and those, as I was, who never think about the impacts of things and only want a free open system where they can do what they want with what they want, damn the consequences. Both groups really do deserve each other. To coin the fundamentalists' favorite phrase, both in fact 'live only for today'.
Maybe it's just mid-life, but you can't help but learn from things as they happen.
Whomever this preacher is he’s not had Homosexuality affect his life enough.
If his son or daughter were I wonder if he’d ditch them.
The devil doesn’t create people that are attracted to the same sex; many just come to feel this way. It seems to be nature’s way of holding down population.
God is not a dragon to be feared, but a loving force to be embraced, and this article makes me sad.
It is not Facebook causing this, but human nature. If we didn’t have Facebook, we’d have street preachers, writers, or some way to get to the masses or as many as you can.
BG, ever been under general anesthesia? You're out, and you're out completely. When it wears off and you come around, it seems like no time at all has passed, even though you may have been under for hours. Same thing with a coma, it can seem like no time at all has passed, but a person might have been in that coma for days, weeks, months, even years. That's what death is to me, a big fat nothing. You're gone, and you're gone for good. Now, if a small amount of some drug can render a person unconscious and completely erase the sense of passing time, then what reason is there to suppose that consciousness would survive your death and decomposition?
I'm almost positive this dude is copying and pasting these posts to troll. He posted one installment from this Bill Keller guy, and when the anger began to flow, he followed it up with a hell of a lot more, with very few posts of his own. These people aren't christians. they're insane people who need help, and whose internet access should be restricted so they can't pray on innocent people. But what would I know? This is just one person's opinion. But as ridiculous as my opinion may seem to some people, it can't possibly be as ridiculous as the claims made by this Bill Keller. And he's not the only one like that. Ever heard of the Westburrough Baptist church? Of course you have. They want to make damn sure they're heard and talked about. If they happen to be spreading the word of God in the process, well that's just an added bonus. Same with this guy. this isn't even about religion. it's about using a spiritual belief that is close to a lot of people's hearts to spread hate.
To the original poster, I'm sorry, but whoever this Bill Keller is just sounds like a complete lunatic who should be locked up. This preacher is preaching nothing but hatred, bigotry, homophobia and intolerance to the worse degree. I don't know how anyone can stand to listen to him; he sounds like a very dangerous individual. I was horrified and disgusted after just the first post you posted... I don't understand how anyone could possibly read/listen to this nonsense and agree with any of it. Sorry but that is just my opinion.
He was locked up at one point, I forget what for, though.
Find out more about Bill Keller here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Keller_%28televangelist%29
Also, did some guy named Roller Coaster Fan post a lot of Keller's stuff as devotionals?
Interesting analogy, Impricator. Perhaps obliveon would indeed be like that. Though anisthesia does wear off, and people in comas do wake up (unless, of course, they don't. I have to say that I'm not altogether convinced that coma patients have absolutely no awareness. I've never been in either situation, but there's enough people who believe there may be some degree of awareness in either case, even if it is only dreaming. But anyway, I see your point.
MY RESPONSE to ALL of the above is that CONSIDERING that YOU have MORE QUESTIONS than I have ANSWERS, CLEARLY DEFINES that WHEREVER ANY OF US ARE, SPIRITUALLY, is ONLY DETERMINED by OUR OWN ETERNAL DECISION--when it's ALL SAID and DONE, when YOU and I would DEFINITELY be standing before the VERY ONLY CREATOR of the UNIVERSE, we'll either hear ONE of TWO THINGS: "WELL DONE! Enter now, into your ETERNAL REST!", or "DEPART FROM ME, WORKER OF INIQUITY!" Either way it's looked at, it's OUR DECISION, NOT GOD'S, that OFFICIALLY DETERMINES OUR ETERNAL DESTINY.
***ASK BILL: Pastor Bill, when we accept the Lord as our personal Savior and still sin, even though we don't mean to, will we still be judged for those sins? This is very confusing to me and I know it is for others like me.
ANSWER: Christ paid the price on the cross for ALL of our sins. However, when we sin, we forfeit the peace, joy, and abundance we should enjoy, plus, whatever consequences there as a result of our sins. the Bible talks about crowns in Heaven. Little is known about those crowns and rewards, other than they will be for our faithfulness and obedience. We don't lost our salvation, but we probably forfeit some crowns and rewards.
What a shock that the favorite "preacher" Cher likes to listen to is...JOEL OSTEEN! Why is that? She said she likes Osteen because he doesn't get "preachy" or talk about controversial issues like homosexuality and abortion. Sadly, it is the cotton-candy motivational "preachers" like Osteen who are most responsible for not just a weak and ineffective church, creating weak and ineffective servants, but the countless souls who will die and end up in hell because nobody loved them enough to tell them the truth about their sins and that without Jesus, they will be lost for all eternity!
A few months ago, Joel Osteen and his wife were on CNN's Piers Morgan program, the successor to Larry King Live. As I watched the interview, I asked myself why is this man going on TV, other than to boost his own personality. A man of God only has ONE MESSAGE, the Gospel. Yet Osteen, because he is the "pastor" of the largest church in America, has a TV following of millions each week because he is little more than a prosperity motivational speaker like Tony Robbins and has the ability to get on these national programs.
But why? To sell more books? Get more people to give him money? That can be his only motivation since he refuses to take a stand for Biblical Truth on the issues of the day. Morgan did everything to get Osteen to talk about abortion, homosexuality, other faiths, and finally did goad him into stating the Bible says homosexuality is a sin. It was painstaking watching Morgan force him to state a simple Biblical Truth!
When asked about Mitt Romney, Osteen actually said that if Romney says he is a Christian that is good enough for him. WHAT??? It is no wonder most Christians think Mormons like Beck and Romney are Christians, when you have the pastor of the largest church in the nation perpetuating their lie. In fact, a Mormon is no more a Christian than a Muslim is!!!
Worst of all, Osteen has never ONCE during the interview did Osteen tell people the FACT that without Jesus they will die and end up in hell. Osteen has to be the most spineless, gutless, cotton candy excuse for a man of God there is. The blood of those who watch him and will die and go to hell will be on His hands, according to Ezekiel 33:8!
"When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand." Ezekiel 33:8 Is it any wonder why the church is so weak and ineffective today? Is it any wonder why the church has virtually NO POWER to stop the unbridled sin in this nation? Is it any wonder why the cults and false religions are flourishing? When Joel Osteen is the "spritual guide" of our day, it is no wonder why so many people who think they are OK because they are "good" will end up burning in hell for all eternity!!!
In a recent interview with Rabbi Naomi Levy, here is what Joel Osteen said about salvation:
Rabbi Naomi Levy: I watched an interview you did with Larry King. I was so amazed when you said Jews can indeed go to heaven, and then I saw that you later took heat for it, and you rephrased yourself. Is it wrong to believe that people who don't believe in Jesus have a place with God and have a place in heaven?
Pastor Joel Osteen: Sure. You know, to me it's up to every person. I mean, what the Scripture teaches is that Jesus came so that we could have salvation through him.
NL: Your Scripture.
JO: Yeah, that's true. So that's why I don't judge anybody else. ... You know, I don't believe in telling one group who can and can't go to heaven. I believe that's up to God.
NL: So do you think it's possible that our God, the God of the universe, might have an equal plan for all good people?
JO: I believe that any of that is possible.
Interview with Pastor Joel Osteen - Transcript from Larry King Live (CNN) (from Monday, June 20, 2005)
KING: What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all?
OSTEEN: You know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven. I don't know . . .
KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They're wrong, aren't they?
OSTEEN: Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong . . . but I just think that only God with judge a person's heart.
KING: You don't call them sinners?
OSTEEN: I don't.
KING: Is that a word you don't use?
OSTEEN: I don't use it.
CALLER: I'm wondering, though, why you side-stepped Larry's earlier question about how we get to heaven? The bible clearly tells us that Jesus is the way, the truth and the light and the only way to the father is through him. That's not really a message of condemnation but of truth.
KING: So, then a Jew is not going to heaven?
OSTEEN: No. Here's my thing, Larry, is I can't judge somebody's heart. You know? Only God can look at somebody's heart, and so - I don't know. To me, it's not my business to say, you know, this one is or this one isn't. And I just I think it's wrong when you go around saying, you're saying you're not going, you're not going, you're not going, because it's not exactly my way. I'm just . . .
KING: What about atheists?
OSTEEN: You know what, I'm going to let someone - I'm going to let God be the judge of who goes to heaven and hell.
The most important issue there is in life is how to be saved. No other issue is even close since salvation deals with the eternal destination of our soul. God created man in His own image and once this brief journey we know as life is over, our soul lives on for all eternity. The only question is will that eternity be with God our Creator or separated from God our Creator. Man was originally created to live for all eternity WITH God his Creator, but his choice to sin broke that eternal relationship. However, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." - (John 3:16 KJV)
You see my friend, it is God's desire that ALL men come to repentance and that one be lost. There is no other issue as important as how to be saved, to insure that you will spend all eternity with the God who created you and loves you so much. That is why the Gospel, the "Good News," the death, burial, and Resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ CANNOT EVER BE COMPROMISED!
The reason and purpose we reach out to people is to be able to share with them the TRUTH of God's Word and the hope and love of Christ. We can be creative in how we reach people, but the point is not to then dazzle them with our words but simply share with them God's words! If we do anything less, we are reduced to nothing more than the false hope merchants like Tony Robbins, Oprah Winfrey, and all the other self-help, "positive mental attitude" gurus whose goal is to see how many books and tapes they can sell and how many people show up at their events.
That is why the message of these people is nonconfrontational. It is politically correct so nobody will be offended and will attract the masses. It is designed to "tickle ears," not bring people under conviction. These false-hope merchants all embrace the universalistic theology straight from hell that "all good people will go to
Heaven." There is no more damning a lie being told in our world today. The Bible proclaims, "There is none good, no not one." It says, "We have all sinned and fallen short of God's glory." Faith in Jesus Christ, and Christ alone is the ONLY WAY to be saved. There is NO OTHER name by which men can be saved. There are not many roads that lead to God-only ONE-faith in Jesus Christ!
Pastor Osteen needs to understand that he isn't the one who says who will go to Heaven or Hell, God is. God clearly told us in His Word who would be in Heaven and who would be in Hell. He already made that decision and it is our job as those who know Christ, especially those who lead His church, to share that eternal hope we have in Christ with those who are lost. Also, when you call sin what it is, it is not you who made that determination, it was God. It is God's Word that tells us what sin is and it is the job of those who know the Lord to share that Truth from God's Word with others.
I know many people reading this today are like Pastor Osteen and have a kind heart, not wanting to hurt people by telling them if they don't accept Christ they will spend eternity in hell. The fact is, if you really love people you will tell them the truth about eternity so that they have the opportunity to choose Christ and have a personal relationship with Him. Hell is a very real place and sadly, the eternal home of those who die rejecting Christ and His love for them. The fact is, the Gospel IS offensive to those who choose to reject it. God's Word IS offensive to those who choose to deny it. Those who know the Lord can't save anyone, that is something only Christ can do as a person makes the choice to accept Him into their hearts and life by faith. What we can do and are commanded to do is to share our faith with others and tell them about Jesus.
I love you and care about you so much. I realize many will be very disappointed that I wrote this message today. I have no doubt many in the Liveprayer family are members of Lakewood Church and will be very upset with me. I am sorry but I can't sit back and stay silent when such a prominent representative of Christ sits on national television, with a largely non-Christian audience watching, and fails to tell people that the only way they can be saved is through faith in Jesus Christ. The Bible tells us to always be ready to share the hope we have in Christ and not to be, "Ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes."
I pray for Pastor Osteen today and ask that you do as well. I have no doubt this man loves the Lord and is doing a great work for God. I pray that the Holy Spirit will bring him under conviction about never again missing an opportunity to share the fact that Jesus is our only hope in this life and for all eternity. I pray the Lord will give him new courage and boldness to stand up for the Gospel and not be afraid to share the Truth with those in this world who so desperately are looking for truth in their life. I pray that he will not be afraid to simply share what God has stated in His Word and is what our very lives and faith are based on.
People don't need more false hope and empty hype. What they need is the unadulterated Truth of God's Word so that they can not only come to know Christ in the pardon of their sins, but live a victorious life here on earth. That ONLY happens when you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. The job of everyone who knows Christ as their Savior, whether you pastor a church or serve God on your job, is to share with those the Lord brings into your life the Truth of His Word and how they can have an everlasting relationship with Jesus Christ. May you share the Gospel proudly and WITHOUT COMPROMISE!
Do you know that if your heart stopped beating in the next minute that you will be forever with the Lord? Do you have that assurance today? The most important decision you will make in this life is not who you will marry, or where you will live, or what kind of job you will have. The most important decision you will make in this life is to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. If you have not done that yet, the Bible says that TODAY is the day of salvation. I would invite you to go to, http://www.liveprayer.com/plan.cfm . Pray to ask God to open your heart, read the words, pray the prayer, and accept today God's gift to you of everlasting life through His son Jesus.
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
The above message, which I forgot to mention, IS CURRENT. Coming up, though, will be a combination of RECENT and/or MORE PAST messages. May you allow GOD to TOTALLY ENRICHLY bless you, if you would ONLY allow the VERY DOOR of your heart to open, TOTALLY REGARDLESS of INTELLECT, DOUBT/DOUBTS, etc.
Date: 06/02/12 - 38 days ago.
Category: ABORTION
Black Pastors are Upset with President Obama Supporting Gay Marriage but What about Abortion
(Numbers 35:33-34; Exodus 20:13, 21:22; Jeremiah 1:5; Psalms 139:13-14; Isaiah 49:1; Job 31:15; Proverbs 24:11)
"Do not pollute the land where you are. Bloodshed pollutes the land, and atonement cannot be made for the land on which blood has been shed, except by the blood of the one who shed it. Do not defile the land where you live and where I dwell, for I, the LORD, dwell among the Israelites." (Numbers 35:33-34 NIV)
Black pastors are upset with President Obama supporting gay marriage, why are they not upset with the FACT that he supports the legalized slaughter of innocent babies, the majority of which are BLACK!!!
Why does nearly $500 MILLION DOLLARS of our tax money go to slaughter innocent babies every year? WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT GIVES TO PLANNED "HOW TO KILL YOUR BABY" PARENTHOOD HAS ZERO TO DO WITH WOMEN'S HEALTH ISSUES. IT IS ABOUT KILLING BABIES! THOSE WHO THROW VERBAL BOMBS ABOUT KILLING WOMEN ARE WRONG! IT IS ABOUT KILLING BABIES!!! HOW MANY YEARS HAVE I TALKED ABOUT THIS VERY ISSUE??????
I read about the Old Testaments prophets lamenting the fact they faithfully deliver the word God has told them to deliver to the people and nobody listened to them. I fully understand the frustration they felt and can empathize with them.
For the nearly 13 years Liveprayer has been online, I have faithfully delivered God's message that the legalized slaughter of over 4,000 innocent babies every DAY was going to unleash God's wrath on this nation. We will never forget 9/11 and the 3,000 innocence people who died that day. We will always remember the horror of Hurricane Katrina and how it virtually destroyed one of the great cities in our country, killing hundreds and displacing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Yet, every 24 hours we legally slaughter 4,000 innocent babies and we never even give it a second thought!
*DID YOU THINK TODAY ABOUT THE FACT IN THE LAST 24 HOURS 4,000 INNOCENT BABIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY WERE SLAUGHTERED???
The leading baby killing organization in the world is Planned "how to kill your baby" Parenthood. In their recent financial they brag that they performed a record 264,943 murders during the year. During that time they received nearly a hlf BILLION DOLLARS FROM US TAX PAYERS!!! Their total income was $902.8 million with expenses of $847 million, leaving them a profit of $55.8 million dollars!!! What a great business they have!!!
Want a good contrast. Based on the actual ministry results we have generated over 13 years through the Internet and on TV, FOR A FRACTION OF WHAT PLANNED "how to kill your baby" PARENTHOOD GENERATED JUST IN THEIR DONATIONS, WE COULD SEE ALMOST AS MANY SOULS LED TO CHRIST AS BABIES THEY SLAUGHTERED!!!
The fact that our Federal Government makes the practice of infanticide legal in this nation is sickening to me, and I can only imagine how it sickens God. The fact that the Federal Government takes $500 MILLION TAX DOLLARS and gives it to this organization to slaughter babies disgusts me more than I can even begin to put into words. The government not only make killing babies legal, they actually take our tax dollars and give them to the leading organization whose sole purpose is to slaughter innocent babies.
My friend, we not only are long overdue God's wrath, but we deserve God's wrath! Forget the fact we have turned from God to worship the false gods and idols of the world. Forget the fact that we live in total rebellion to God and His Truth. Simply the fact that we slaughter over 4,000 innocent babies every single day in this nation is enough for us to suffer whatever punishment God metes out!
I keep asking myself when will this nation wake up? I am afraid like the children of Israel so many times in the Old Testament, we have become so lost in our sin, so blinded by our rejection of and rebellion to God, that we no longer possess a conscience. Our hearts are so hardened and our soul is seared that we no longer care. Knowing that it is only a matter of moments before God says enough is enough and pours out His wrath upon this nation, it would be easy for hopelessness to set in and do nothing. That is the mindset satan wants us to have. Instead, now is the time to do more! We are the victors, it is satan who is defeated!
I believe in my heart of hearts that we can see a real spiritual revival in this nation, and more importantly, see millions of lost souls turn from their sins and to faith in Jesus. The time has never been more ripe. I look at the fact this one organization whose sole goal is the slaughtering of innocent babies raised nearly ONE BILLION dollars last year. With just ONE PERCENT of that, Liveprayer can lead as many souls to everlasting life through faith in Jesus Christ as babies Planned "how to kill your baby" Parenthood can murder in a year!
I love you and care about you so much. I have a renewed sense of purpose today, a new motivation, a new fire that has been lit inside of me. I will press on and keep giving everything I have each day to be faithful to the Lord's calling on my life. I want this message today to encourage you as well. God needs all of His children, now more than ever, to rise up and take their stand for Him in these last days. Each of us have our own specific calling, our own special missions to perform for the Master. Now is the time to be more faithful than ever. Now is the time to work harder than we ever have. Now is the time for make even greater sacrifices, to make even more of a commitment to the Lord and His work.
Can we ever take the Federal Government out of the business of slaughtering innocent babies? I pray daily for that moment to come. We have to do all we can to at least get them to stop funding this private organization whose only business is killing innocent babies. In the meantime, as we fight those political battles, we have to keep fighting this issue on the ground by changing hearts and lives.
In just over a year since I put up the video of an actual abortion being performed on the Liveprayer website ( ttp://www.liveprayer.com/abortion.cfm ), we have received emails from over 6,000 women who were planning on killing their baby, watched that video, and decided to let their baby live. I have no doubt many more babies are alive today because of that one video clip. We have to continue to speak out and not be silent, to let women know there are options to killing their baby, to educate young people on God's plan for sex and relationships, and most important, lead people to faith in Christ and the Truth of His Word!
Planned "how to kill your baby" Parenthood is a sick and disgusting organization. How would you like to go to work each day at a place where their business is slaughtering innocent babies? They make their money by charging women to kill their baby. What a wonderful way to use some of what God has entrusted to you. They make their money through donations. How fulfilling it must be to go to sleep at night knowing that you sacrificed some of your hard earned dollars to help kill an innocent baby. They also are given hundreds of millions a year by the Federal Government to finance their baby killing business.
If people want to pay someone to kill their baby that is their choice. If someone wants to give their money to an organization whose business is killing babies, that is their choice. TO TAKE TAX DOLLARS AND GIVE THEM TO A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION SO THEY CAN SLAUGHTER INNOCENT BABIES IS UNCONSCIONABLE AND HAS TO STOP IMMEDIATELY
Please wake up!!! We not only live in, but we accept this culture of death that hangs over our nation. Jesus came to deliver us from death. Jesus won the victory over death. We do not have to accept this black cloud of death that hangs over our land. It is time Christians took our stand and loudly, boldly,
visibly proclaimed LIFE! Children are growing up without any understanding of where life came from and how precious it is. So it is no wonder why they have embraced death to the extent they have.
I have answered the call to lead this charge to bring our nation back to God and Biblical values. We have the infrastructure and resources to do it through Liveprayer. I am asking you to say NO to this culture of death we are living in and say YES to life!!! Don't underestimate how critical 15 minutes a day can be as you help me by following one, two, or all 3 of these action steps. People are saved daily, lives are impacted daily, because someone made the effort to share Liveprayer with that person. YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND TAKE A REAL STAND FOR CHRIST EACH DAY!
1. Distribute Liveprayer Daily Devotional - I need people to take each day's Daily Devotional and forward it to everyone that you know. This is a great way to help spread God's Word on the Internet. Also, post it to various blogs and message boards that you frequent.
2. Jonah Project - Tell everyone that you know to check out the Jonah Project. This is the vehicle God has given us to bring together true followers of Jesus Christ in these last days in one group that can make an incredible impact on the spiritual course of this nation and in millions of people's lives. There is a vision video on the Jonah Project homepage that clearly lays out how God can use this group in these last days. You can access the Jonah Project website by going to Liveprayer.com and clicking on the Jonah Project link.
3. Fundraising - Unlike other ministries, Liveprayer has ZERO paid fundraisers or development people. Again, I just never went the route all major ministries go of having a staff of people who do nothing but contact donors and go out to raise funds. All we do each day, all that we provide is made available for FREE to take God's Word into the marketplace and impact lives for Christ. Obviously it takes money to operate. I've simply shared our needs and walked by faith that God would provide each month. Raising money is a special gift. I am praying that those who have that special gift and want to serve God will help me in this area.
The fact is, there are lots of people who God has blessed and are giving to many different causes. Liveprayer is a highly visible ministry, a track record of over 13 years, and the fruit of literality millions of changed lives as a testimony that this is fertile soil for people to give into. Obama had literally thousands of regular people collecting money for his campaign. Normal people with no special skills or gifts in raising money. They simple believed in his work and got people to give towards it.
I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE LIVEPRAYER FAMILY WHO BELIEVE IN GOD'S WORK HERE WHO COULD SUCCESSFULLY GET PEOPLE YOU KNOW TO GIVE TO HELP US DO ALL THAT WE DO EACH DAY FOR SO MANY AROUND THE WORLD.
Are you ready to take your stand for Christ??? Liveprayer is a life-changing vehicle God has been using for nearly 13 years now to impact literally tens of millions of lives all over the world. We have tapped into the great technology of our day to reach the world and individual lives with the Truth of God's Word and the hope and love of Jesus Christ. I can't do this alone. Now more than ever it is critical for each person who knows the Lord to step up and allow Him to use your life. I have given you 6 action steps. You can choose one, two, or all six depending on how the Lord is leading you.
I refuse to accept this culture of death we live in. I am asking you to take your stand for Christ and help me change this nation into a culture of LIFE, abundant now and everlasting through faith in Jesus Christ!!!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Date: 05/14/12 - 57 days ago.
Category: ABORTION
Vote for Jesus for President this November
(Deuteronomy 8:19,20 ,2 Kings 17:22,23)
"If you ever forget the LORD your God and follow other gods and worship and bow down to them, I testify against you today that you will surely be destroyed. Like the nations the LORD destroyed before you, so you will be destroyed for not obeying the LORD your God." Deut 8:19,20
"The Israelites persisted in all the sins of Jeroboam and did not turn away from them until the Lord removed them from his presence, as he had warned through all his servants the prophets. So the people of Israel were taken from their homeland into exile in Assyria, and they are still there." 2 Kings 17:22,23
It is time for Christians, true followers of Jesus Christ, to rise up and say NO to satan this November! As I prophetically shared last November, if God allowed the upcoming election for President to be between President Obama and Mitt Romney, it would truly be satan flipping a two-headed coin with his head on both sides!
President Obama has proven by his words and deeds to be a true enemy of God as detailed in James 4:4. He has been the most pro-death President in history, supporting the legalized slaughter of innocent babies here and around the world, he is a staunch advocate of the radical homosexual agenda, and he has been a great friend to the enemies of Israel. On every major spiritual issue of the day, President Obama has proven to be an enemy of God and a true tool of satan!
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney is a 5th generation member and a priest in the satanically inspired Mormon cult. He and others in his cult LIE when they claim to be Christians, since Mormon doctrine is 100% inconsistent with Biblical Christianity and a Mormon is no more a Christian than a Muslim is. He deceives people by saying he believes in "God" and "Jesus" is his savior, when the "god" of Romney's cult is NOT the God of the Bible, and their "jesus" is NOT the Jesus of the Bible. Romney and those in his cult believe the Bible to be a flawed and incomplete book and look at Biblical Christians as inferior and non-believers for rejecting the beliefs of their cult.
If President Obama is re-elected, his anti-American, socialist policies will continue, as will his attacks on Christianity and Christian churches. He will continue to support abortion, homosexuality, the enemies of Israel. How can a true follower of Christ vote in good conscience for a man who has proven to be a true enemy of God and His Word and will continue to be so in his next term?
If Mitt Romney is elected, he will be the fulfillment of his cult's polygamist, pedophile, racist, con artist, murdering founder Joseph Smith's "White Horse" prophecy that Romney and all Mormon's believe. That prophecy says that the United States will facing great economic and social unrest, a Mormon will be elected President, declare a national emergency and set aside the US Constitution and enact a Mormon theocracy. That may sound impossible, but ever since he was at BYU, Romney was called by his inner circle "the chosen one" to fulfill their cult's prophecy.
Aside from the 'White Horse" prophecy, Romney's cult is very aggressive in seeking converts to their beliefs. They have been preparing for the past year for a Romney Presidency, and conservative estimates are that over 1 million people in this country alone will become part of his cult without him having to ever say a word. Just by being the President, his cult will finally gain the mainstream acceptance they have never been able to attain. For Christians, that means 1 million plus people will buy into the lies of Romney's cult, die, and their souls burn in hell for all eternity! How can a true follower of Christ vote in good conscience for a man whose cult will help send 1 million plus souls to hell?
Sadly, most Christians are so appalled at President Obama's opposition to God on every major spiritual issue of the day, they are willing to put politics above souls. The justification is that Romney is the lesser of two evils. My friend, the lesser of two evils is still EVIL!
The problems in this nation are NOT political, they are spiritual. That is why NO politician can solve the real problems this nation faces! Do we have political problems that need to be addressed? Absolutely! However, until we deal with the spiritual problems this nation faces, nothing will ever change. The only hope is for this nation to have a "Nineveh Moment," where we repent of our sins and turn back to God and His Truth!
This is not about politics, it is about THE ETERNAL SOULS OF MEN! A true Christian will NEVER put politics above souls, so please watch for any so-called Christian leader who endorses and supports either President Obama or Mitt Romney, since they are nothing but "hirelings" and NOT true men or women of God because they obviously don't care about souls!
So who is a Christian to vote for with a clear conscience? The answer is simple...JESUS!!! Go to: www.votingforjesus.com
I am encouraging true followers of Jesus Christ to say NO to satan and say YES to Jesus! This November, write in the name JESUS for President! The option will be several third party candidates. Sadly, no candidate outside of the two major parties have any chance at winning the election. So rather than vote for a third party candidate, write in the name of Jesus for President.
Your vote for JESUS is not helping President Obama get re-elected, nor is it helping Mitt Romney get elected, it is telling satan you will not be responsible for either of his tools becoming our next President! Men need to quit looking to men for answers, but to the Lord!
The fact is, God has taken His hand of blessing and protection from this nation for our gross sins and wickedness. How long could we slaughter 4,000 innocent babies every 24 hours, make a mockery of God's Holy Institution of Marriage and the Family, engage in every kind of sexual perversion, bow down and worship every false god and idol man has dreamed up in rebellion to his Creator, and arrogantly not expect God's wrath and punishment?
God started by allowing the economy to slip in disarray, we have chaos in our streets, and now God has allowed two tools of satan to face each other to see who would become the next leader of our nation. The great thing is that God is not done with His people! God still has a remnant who won't bow their knee to baal! It is time for God's people to rise up and take our stand for Him! It is time for our voice to be heard!
We can do that this November, taking a real stand for God and His Truth by writing in the name of JESUS for President. I assure you that if 1 million, 2 million, 10 million Christians make this symbolic statement for our faith, we will no longer be ignored. We have a chance to make a statement for our faith that the world will not be able to ignore! I am tired of satan having his way. It is time to lead our nation back to God and Biblical Truth, while leading the lost and hurting to faith in Jesus Christ!
The broadcast and cable television networks promote each day the agenda of satan whether it is the legalized killing of babies, the radical homosexual agenda, the destruction of God's Holy Institutions of marriage and the family, the false religion of Islam as well as any other cult, false religion, or new age philosophy, while they mock, demean, marginalize, and demonize men and women who believe the Bible to be God's inspired, inerrant Word, representing Absolute Truth and our final authority in all matters and have put their faith in Jesus Christ!
WE WILL BE IGNORED AND SILENT NO LONGER!!!
Will you pray about making your stand with me this November by writing in the name of JESUS for President???
Please take a minute and go to: www.votingforjesus.com
I love you and care about you so much. Please know that you will be in my prayers.
Please be in prayer for whoever is our President as God has instructed us to do. Now is the time, this is the moment. God may be done with this nation, but His people can make our stand for righteousness, say NO to satan, and help lead this nation back to the Almighty and His Truth!!!
Watch this video on voting for Jesus for President this November!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=423EFQeHnq4
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Date: 02/07/12 - 154 days ago.
Category: ABORTION
Killing Innocent Babies will be the Legacy of this Nation
(Exodus 20:13; Psalm 106:38; Jeremiah 1:5)
Killing innocent babies will be the legacy of this nation! Last week was a sad and sick reminder how a huge portion of this nation not just supports the slaughter of innocent babies, but will fight anyone who dares to try and stop them. The Susan G. Komen Foundation is an organization that is trying to find a cure for breast cancer. It also is on the front lines of helping educate women about this disease, and encouraging them to get an annual breast examination.
Part of their efforts have been to fund other organizations in this area. Most people didn't know that each year they gave a grant of $250,000 to Planned "how to kill your baby" Parenthood to help them provide breast exams for women. Of course, PP is also the world's leading baby killing organization. The decision was made last week to cut off their annual grant to PP. Talk about the demons of hell being unleashed!
Within 24 hours, the Komen Foundation reversed that decision, after getting a non-stop barrage of attacks from the media and supporters of PP. Why Komen caved is easy to understand. They stood to lost 10x the amount of money in donations than the PP grant. So rather than anger those who support the slaughter of babies, the reinstated the grant to PP. Truly a sad and glaring example of how a large percentage of people today not only support killing babies, but will fight for that right!
Did you know that $300 MILLION DOLLARS of our tax money go to slaughter innocent babies last year? I read about the Old Testaments prophets lamenting the fact they faithfully deliver the word God has told them to deliver to the people and nobody listened to them. I fully understand the frustration they felt and can empathize with them. For the nearly 13 years Liveprayer has been online, for the 4+ years the TV program has been on the air, I have faithfully delivered God's message that the legalized slaughter of over 4,000 innocent babies every DAY was going to unleash God's wrath on this nation.
We will never forget 9/11 and the 3,000 innocence people who died that day. We will always remember the horror of Hurricane Katrina and how it virtually destroyed one of the great cities in our country, killing hundreds and displacing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Yet, every 24 hours we legally slaughter 4,000 innocent babies and we never even give it a second thought!
*DID YOU THINK TODAY ABOUT THE FACT IN THE LAST 24 HOURS 4,000 INNOCENT BABIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY WERE SLAUGHTERED???
The leading baby killing organization in the world is Planned "how to kill your baby" Parenthood. In their recent data, they brag that they performed apx 300,000 murders last year. During that time they received $345.1 million in clinic income, $212.2 million in donations, and $305.3 MILLION DOLLARS FROM US TAX PAYERS!!! Their total income was $902.8 million with expenses of $847 million, leaving them a profit of $55.8 million dollars!!! What a great business they have!!!
The fact that our Federal Government makes the practice of infanticide legal in this nation is sickening to me, and I can only imagine how it sickens God. The fact that the Federal Government takes $300 MILLION TAX DOLLARS and gives it to this organization to slaughter babies disgusts me more than I can even begin to put into words. The government not only make killing babies legal, they actually take our tax dollars and give them to the leading organization whose sole purpose is to slaughter innocent babies.
My friend, we not only are long overdue God's wrath, but we deserve God's wrath! Forget the fact we have turned from God to worship the false gods and idols of the world. Forget the fact that we live in total rebellion to God and His Truth. Simply the fact that we slaughter over 4,000 innocent babies every single day in this nation is enough for us to suffer whatever punishment God metes out!
I keep asking myself when will this nation wake up? I am afraid like the children of Israel so many times in the Old Testament, we have become so lost in our sin, so blinded by our rejection of and rebellion to God, that we no longer possess a conscience. Our hearts are so hardened and our soul is seared that we no longer care. Knowing that it is only a matter of moments before God says enough is enough and pours out His wrath upon this nation, it would be easy for hopelessness to set in and do nothing. That is the mindset satan wants us to have. Instead, now is the time to do more! We are the victors, it is satan who is defeated!
I love you and care about you so much. I have a renewed sense of purpose today, a new motivation, a new fire that has been lit inside of me. I will press on and keep giving everything I have each day to be faithful to the Lord's calling on my life. I want this message today to encourage you as well. God needs all of His children, now more than ever, to rise up and take their stand for Him in these last days. Each of us have our own specific calling, our own special missions to perform for the Master. Now is the time to be more faithful than ever. Now is the time to work harder than we ever have. Now is the time for make even greater sacrifices, to make even more of a commitment to the Lord and His work.
Can we ever take the Federal Government out of the business of slaughtering innocent babies? I pray daily for that moment to come. We have to do all we can to at least get them to stop funding this private organization whose only business is killing innocent babies. In the meantime, as we fight those political battles, we have to keep fighting this issue on the ground by changing hearts and lives.
In just over a year since I put up the video of an actual abortion being performed on the Liveprayer website ( http://www.liveprayer.com/aborsion.cfm ), we have received emails from over 5,000 women who were planning on killing their baby, watched that video, and decided to let their baby live. I have no doubt many more babies are alive today because of that one video clip. We have to continue to speak out and not be silent, to let women know there are options to killing their baby, to educate young people on God's plan for sex and relationships, and most important, lead people to faith in Christ and the Truth of His Word!
Planned "how to kill your baby" Parenthood is a sick and disgusting organization. How would you like to go to work each day at a place where their business is slaughtering innocent babies? They make their money by charging women to kill their baby. What a wonderful way to use some of what God has entrusted to you. They make their money through donations. How fulfilling it must be to go to sleep at night knowing that you sacrificed some of your hard earned dollars to help kill an innocent baby. They also are given hundreds of millions a year by the Federal Government to finance their baby killing business.
If people want to pay someone to kill their baby that is their choice. If someone wants to give their money to an organization whose business is killing babies, that is their choice. TO TAKE TAX DOLLARS AND GIVE THEM TO A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION SO THEY CAN SLAUGHTER INNOCENT BABIES IS UNCONSCIONABLE AND HAS TO STOP IMMEDIATELY!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Date: 01/24/12 - 168 days ago.
Category: ABORTION
President Obama Leads the Nation in Celebrating Roe vs. Wade
(Psalms 139:13-15; Jeremiah 1:4-5)
This week, President Obama, the most pro-death President in the nation's history, leads the nation in celebrating the 39th anniversary of Roe vs. Wade. This is the Supreme Court decision that put the federal government in the business of legalized infanticide, with over 55 MILLION babies slaughtered in that time. Every 24 hours, apx. 4,000 innocent babies are "legally" murdered in this nation!
Abortion is a big deal. I am getting sick and tired of people telling me to stop talking about abortion. I am getting even more sick and tired of people like Rick Warren and others on the "religious left" who say talking about abortion is too divisive and that we need to stick to issues most people agree on like poverty and AIDS in Africa.
I fully understand why people don't want to talk about abortion. INFANTICIDE is not a pleasant subject! But we can't just be silent and act like it doesn't exist, especially due to the FACT that in the next 24 hours, another 4,000 innocent babies will be slaughtered in this nation!!!
I would love to stop talking about abortion. Let's get the US Govt out of the baby killing business and let each state decide whether they want to kill babies in their state. This will not end abortion, but it will at least not allow men and women treat it any longer like a trip to the dentist to have a cavity filled!
It will also cause the adoption industry to be reformed so adopting a child doesn't require 5 lawyers, 6 years, and the amount of money it costs to by a small home. It will also cause the church to start taking responsibility for putting together programs to help deal with babies that need to be cared for and placed in the home of a loving mother and father.
However, until we get to that place, I refuse to be silent and it is a subject that MUST be talked about. Every time there is some sort of natural disaster with people dying, the news media is all over the story. Any death is sad, but it always makes me wonder why so much is made of 5, 10, 50 people tragically losing their life, and nobody even thinks about the fact that every 24 hours we murder apx 4,000 innocent babies in this nation.
I am virtually certain that there are only a handful of people out of the several million who will read these words today, that even stopped for a second to reflect that in the last 24 hours we killed 4,000 babies in this country. We have become so desensitized, have come to accept abortion to the point we don't even think about it any longer.
Here is why abortion IS a big deal. Did you ever wonder if there is a correlation between the fact we started to legally kill babies in this nation in 1973, about the same time we began to see a massive spiritual decline in his nation? Coincidence? I think not! Just like in our individual lives, our nations blessings are tied to our obedience to God. Legally killing babies is a big deal since how can we ever expect God to bless a land that is flooded with the blood of incident babies?
I know that it is not politically correct to talk about abortion any longer. Sadly, very few nationally known pastors will EVER talk about this issue. It is bad for their business. Those who now make up this growing group known as the religious left who fill their churches with the seeker/purpose driven/emerging church watered down message don't like this issue since it hurts their marketing efforts for warm bodies. Except for a handful of brave Catholic bishops and priests, you hear virtually nobody in the marketplace taking a stand against this blatant act of murder.
I have been saying for years that this one issue alone is enough to bring down God's wrath and judgment on this nation. Sadly, President Bush squandered our last real opportunity we may ever have to deal with this issue politically. President Obama is a stanch defender of the practice of infanticide. He is a hero to those in the pro death movement. The business of killing babies around the world has flourished under Obama.
Those who defend him state that it is the law, that he is only upholding the law. The fact is, he has voted 100% of the time during his political career to uphold the legalized killing of babies. If he truly believed in life, he could have voted to make abortion illegal and work towards that end. I contend that any politician who votes to uphold abortion has the blood of innocent babies on their hands and is truly an evil person!!!
As a side note. For those in the pro death movement who want to make believe this is about women's health rights, that is a bunch of garbage. This is about the LIFE OF A HUMAN BEING! I agree a woman has the right to do whatever she wants with her body, BUT NOT THE BODY OF SOMEONE ELSE! That baby may be inside her, but it is still a separate human life created by God!
I love you and care about you so much. I refuse to be bullied into silence on what is by far the most critical spiritual issue there is. You simply can't close your eyes and act like this brutal act of murder doesn't exist. I see the Hollywood crowd and people who normally spit in the face of God get so upset about the atrocities committed to on animals. Why aren't these same people as upset with the fact every 24 hours we slaughter 4,000 innocent babies??? Where is their outrage about that???
On the Liveprayer.com homepage, we have a special 55 second video clip of an actual abortion being performed. If you have not watched it, YOU MUST! This is what happens to over 4,000 innocent babies EVERY DAY in this nation! Since God led me to get this footage and put it on the website nearly two years ago, we have had over 3,000 emails from women who were contemplating having an abortion, watched the video, and changed their mind (Watch the incredible testimony of baby Delilah also on that same link). http://www.liveprayer.com/aborsion.cfm
Despite the several death threats and scathing emails I get every month just from having that video on my website, I want the world to see what really happens to millions of babies here in the United Sates and around the world every year. Abortion is a big deal since it not only kills 1.5 million babies in this nation alone, but it is already bringing down the wrath and judgment of God on this nation for practicing infanticide, unless you are as spiritually blind as our leaders in Washington who think they can fix the problem.
The only way to fix the problem is to stop killing babies and turn back to God and His Truth!!!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Date: 11/10/11 - 243 days ago.
Category: ABORTION
The Attempt to Pass a Personhood Amendment Failed to Pass
(James 2:17)
Sadly, the attempt Tuesday in Mississippi to pass a "personhood amendment," defining life as beginning at conception and thus making abortion illegal, failed to pass. Obviously, even if it had passed, it would have faced immediate legal challenges that hopefully would take the issue to the Supreme Court and force them to take another look at Roe vs.. Wade. Roe vs.. Wade is the legal ruling in 1973 that put the United States government in the business of killing babies. So people understand, even if Roe was overturned, it would simply become an issue for each state to decide on.
In dealing with the abortion issue, helping you to understand the reality of this blight on our nation both politically and spiritually, most people who emailed me had the proper response . . . "What can I do?" Over 150 years ago our nation legally practiced another abomination to God, slavery. It was the people of God, those who knew Christ as their Savior who ultimately forced the abolition of this gross wickedness of one man to another. It was men and women of God who refused to sit back and watch unbridled sin exist despite the fact that it was "legal." So it will be with abortion as men and women of faith properly ask the question, "What can I do?"
In the Book of James, God tells us, "Faith without works is dead." Since this was written to the church, people who were already saved, it in NO WAY implies that works will save you. Ephesians 2:8,9 and many other passages clearly refute that notion. What that passage is saying, however, is that once you are saved your faith requires action. If you are truly saved, you understand that you have a God-given plan and purpose for your life that must be fulfilled. You understand that your life is no longer your own, that it belongs to Christ. Your life literally becomes an instrument in the hands of God to fulfill His Divine plan and purpose. To be used by God our Creator is the greatest use of our days on this earth there can be.
While we all have been called to serve God in different ways, we are all part of the same Body. We may have different jobs to perform but we are all on the same team. Being part of the Body of Christ also carries some shared responsibilities. We are all ambassadors of Christ and His representatives at all times. We are all called to share our faith with the hurting and lost, to give people a, "Reason for the hope we have." We all accept the absolute Truth and authority of God's Word. Subsequently, we can't simply sit back and see sin abound and do nothing. The existence of sin requires and DEMANDS action on the part of the child of God.
So when confronted with the sin of abortion, what should that action be? First, prayer. PRAYER CHANGES THINGS! I can only imagine the number of prayers that went up every day during the time slavery was legal in this nation, that this inhumane practice would end. Don't ever underestimate the power of prayer and EVERY child of God must pray daily for this nation to get out of the business of killing babies.
Second, communicate to others the Truth of God's Word. It is God Himself who calls abortion murder. Those who know Christ cannot sit back and be silent while people support this sin. Wherever the discussion of abortion exists, be it in your home with family members, at work or school, out with friends, or in the public square, a child of God MUST speak out for righteousness and call this sin what it is . . . MURDER!
Third, evangelism. Some of you may be confused how evangelism has anything to do with the abortion issue, but it is THE answer to this and every other issue. You see, when a person is saved, the Bible says, "They become a new creature in Christ." They literally are a new creation and the, "old things pass away." When a person is saved they get a new heart, they get new desires, they start to live their lives in obedience to God instead of in rebellion to Him. The ultimate answer to the abortion issue is to get people saved since they would no longer make the choice to kill their baby and the abortion mills would close down due to a lack of business.
AGAIN, EVERY PERSON WHO KNOWS JESUS HAS THE MANDATE FROM OUR LORD TO SHARE THE HOPE AND LOVE WE HAVE IN CHRIST WITH THE LOST. THIS IS NOT AN OPTION, IT IS A COMMANDMENT!
I love you and care about you so much. I know from the outpouring of emails I receive each day, many people are frustrated and feel helpless. Let me remind you, as a child of God we have the greatest power there is, the power of the Holy Sprit indwelling within us. The Bible proclaims that NOTHING is impossible with God. That includes seeing the sin of abortion being performed daily with the full blessings and protection of our Federal Government.
Do you realize that less than 4,000 people were killed on 9/11. The United States properly responded, spending billions to defeat those who would seek to destroy our nation and kill each one of us if they were given the opportunity. However, more than that number of innocent babies are slaughtered DAILY! It is clear that the politicians have no guts to stop this practice of legalized infanticide, just like they had no guts to stop the evils of slavery. It was the people of God who brought slavery to an end and it will have to be the people of God to bring abortion to an end!
Every man, woman, and child that knows Christ as their Savior can pray, can communicate the Truth of God's Word that abortion is murder, and can help bring the lost to faith in Christ. Remember, nothing you do for the Lord is in vain. If just these things were being done by those who have a personal relationship with Jesus, you would see a major shift on this issue over night. In addition, God will raise up key men and women to take a leadership position in carrying out whatever His ultimate plan is to see victory over the sin of abortion.
I will be praying for you today. Praying that you will realize you DO make a difference. Just like no one person got this nation to abolish the sin of slavery, it will not be one person to get this nation to abolish the sin of abortion. It is going to take all of those who know the Lord to make this happen. May we rise up in the power of Almighty God and take a stand for righteousness as we say to this lost world, no more killing babies. We either take action against this sin or we are no better than those who support it. You asked the question, "What can I do?" Now I ask you the question, " What will you do?"
***As we are now 10 days into the month of November, we still need to bring in the last $10,000 of our October operations, in addition to the $40,000 we need for November's budget. I have been in prayer today for the Lord to send 2 people immediately who are willing to make the sacrifce of $5,000 to help me cover $10,000 of our past due October budget that we need immediately! If everyone will take a minute, pray, and seek the Lord as to what He would have you do to help me today, I know the Holy Spirit will move on the hearts of those who are to give, and the amount they are to sacrifice. Will you take a moment and help me today? Thank you and God bless!
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Thank You for your love, prayers, and sacrifce as together we lead this nation back to God and Biblical Truth!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Date: 07/11/10 - 730 days ago.
Category: ABORTION
A Nation facing God's Wrath and Punishment - Part I of II
(Ezekiel 13;1-16)
"A Nation facing God's Wrath and Punishment" Part One of Two
Last week, the Board of the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, California, tens of millions of dollars in debt, fired founding pastor Robert Schuller, Sr. It is a sad ending to the ministry of a man who has spent 50 years of his life, not preaching the true Gospel, but a watered-down positive mental attitude messages inspired by his mentor Norman Vincent Peale. I have warned people for years about Schuller, a 33rd degree member of the Masonic cult as was Peale, for mixing his motivational messages into his embracement of new age philosophies.
However, Schuller's legacy will be as the father of the modern era of "church marketing." His prot?g? Rick Warren is the founder of the "purpose driven" marketing strategy, along with Bill Hybels who founded the "seeker" marketing strategy, heretic Rob Bell who founded the "emerging church" marketing strategy, and the plethora of ministers in the 80s who introduced the "prosperity gospel" marketing strategy that has been the hallmark of Christian television the past 30 years.
The problem with all of these marketing strategies is that they are NOT Biblically based, since they use the cleverness of man to fill pews with warm bodies as opposed to converts through the preaching of the Gospel. They preach a perversion of the Scriptures, making promises that don't exist. The key however, is that you will very rarely ever find any of these marketing strategies preaching against sin of any kind, since that might offend people. Their watered down preaching is designed to attract the masses, and in order to keep them, they end up embracing ecumenicalism and the some form of the lie from hell that everyone will make it to heaven regardless what you believe.
Only eternity will show the millions, tens of millions of souls, who will burn in hell for all etenrity that were at some point reached by or part of one of these churches embracing these modern day marketing strategies. It was not their soul these "preachers" cared about, but their body count and bank account! Do some people really get saved in these types of churches? Absolutely. In spite of the fact saving souls is never their ultimate goal regardless what they may say, some people do get saved in these churches. Sadly however, a large percentage don't since they may never be told how to get saved or given the opportunity!
Listen, it is no accident that our nation is in spritual freefall. That the vast majority of the last two generations have never even been to church. There are more churches than ever in the history of this nation, yet they have virtually zero impact on our culture. That is because the old mainline denominations have turned into liberal institutions embracing every kind of sin imaginable, and the vast percentage of the largest churches are those who have embraced these modern day marketing plans in order to fill the pews.
Case in point. The largest church in America is Osteen's Lakewood Church in Houston. I have railed against this cotton-candy, gutless, motivational speaker who masquerades as a preacher. When you put cotton-candy in your mouth it tastes sweet for a minute and than it is gone. That is what Osteen's messages are like. No substance, no Biblical Truth, no Gospel! TBN is the largest Christian network, having amassed BILLIONS over the last few decades by promising people they will be rich and prosperous if they just send them or any of the "prosperity pimps" they have on their airwaves money.
Is it any wonder why the lost have no intrest in what Christians have to say? Is it any wonder why we are mocked and marginalized in the mainstream media and marketplace? They have seen the so-called leaders compromise to make money, and see our faith as nothing but a financial hustle. Sadly, in most cases they are 100% correct. It reminds me of the Old Testament as the prophet, not part of the religious establishment, railed against the priests of the day for using God for nothing more than an avenue to make money and live a comfortable life. All the while, the nation of Israel was lost in gross sin and the wrath and judgment of God imminent.
So it is today. For the past 12 years, I have labored each day to bring the masses the raw truth of the Bible regardless the personal consequences. I fully understand why pastors and those in the ministry water-down their message, since the truth of the Bible is offensive to people and when people are offended, they leave...and take their money with them. I can assure you, telling the truth is NO WAY to build a church or minsitry if your goal is to live well, build new buildings, and have a large following of people who adore you and give you their money every week.
But those were never my goals. When I take my last breath, there is only ONE who I will stand before. It is HIM that I must answer to. It is HIM I must please. God isn't going to be impressed with how much money I raised, or how many buildings I built, or that I lived a life of luxury. No my friend, God is only going to be interested in one thing...was I faithful! Was I faithful to tell the whole truth of the Bible no matter the price? Was I faithful to not compromise the Gospel no matter the price? Was I faithful to tell people that without Jesus they will die and burn in hell for all eternity no matter the price? Was I faithful to tell the lost masses that Jesus is their only hope and their only answer no matter the price?
I love you and care about you so much. Sadly, as it has been since the church was first established in Jerusalem right after the Lord's death and resurrection, men who claim to love the Lord have divided themselves. In studying church history, it is interesting that the only time Christians ever came together as one was in a time of great crisis when the very faith itself was in jeopardy of being wiped out. I submit to you today that we are not far from seeing that happen right before our eyes. There are already many places on this earth where you can't preach the Gospel, and I have told you for years that the United States may be the next place in our lifetime if we don't act now.
God will not be mocked. We have engaged in every type of sin imaginable and bow down and worship every false god and idol man has created in his evil imagination. People wonder why I rail against satanic cult member Glenn Beck often. How far in the spiritual gutter is this nation when a man who worships in a polytheistic cult that denies the very deity of Christ, founded just 200 years ago by a racist, polygamist, pedophile, con artist, murderer is seen by many as a spiritual guide? Worse yet, by many who claim to be Bible-believing Christians? New Age tool of satan Deepak Chopra has a following of millions. Tens of millions more have received their "religious views" for many years from New Age witch Oprah Winfrey!
DOES ANYONE HAVE EYES TO SEE OR EARS TO HEAR THAT GOD'S JUDGMENT ON THIS WICKED LAND IS IMMINENT WHEN TOOLS OF SATAN LIKE THESE ARE BEING FOLLOWED INTO HELL BY TENS OF MILLIONS???
I have fought the last two years as the economy has taken such a hard turn for so many of our friends, affecting greatly the ability for Liveprayer to simply operate each day. I have become weary asking people to help me, of praying daily for the Lord to send the right people who are able to support His work here. I hear the whispers of satan often to just give it up, reminding that when I die I will be in heaven, and quit worrying about others and start looking after my own needs. After all, I am now 53 and have spent the last 20 years of my life, some of my most productive years, giving 100% of everything I have in every way to serving the Lord and have not even begun to think about the needs of me and my family as I get older.
However, I rebuke satan and his lies. God has always provided what I need and will continue to. He has given me one last job to fulfill, and that is to use all of the ministry tools He has helped us develop over these 20 yrs, all of my talents and gifts He has blessed me with, to stand in the town square as Jonah did in Nineveh and warn the people that unless they repent and turn back to God and His Truth this nation is finished. As much as I want to run as Jonah did, I can't. I will remain faithful. I will finish my race. I will keep my eye on the prize.
My frustration is that I don't need much help. I need and covet everyone's prayers. I need those who are able to make the sacrifice as you are able to help Liveprayer financially. We only need $40,000 a month for our monthly operations. I have worked out a budget that for 1/3 what many ministries pay for their private jet, $10 million dollars, we have the pieces in place to secure a platform in the secular media on a daily basis to lead people to Biblical truth and see millions of souls won to Christ.
Our time is short. Our time is now. While most are out each day building their own fiefdoms in the name of God, my only desire is to see this nation turn back to the Almighty and His Truth. I have no desire to have a large following or amass millions of dollars. My goals are not of this world but they are heavenly. I pray that you hear my heart today and understand I only want to do what God has called me to do, which is to sound the trump of warning to this lost nation and world to turn back to God and His Truth and that Jesus is their only hope and answer.
I don't need the clever marketing strategies of men to accomplish this, only the power of the Holy Spirit and the prayers and support of like-minded followers of our Lord who want to see a season of God being exhaled and a mighty harvest of souls in this land before this world as we know it ends, just as the Bible says it will very soon. That will be our only eternal legacy. Will you pray for me and help me as you are able?
*Don't miss Part Two tomorrow!!!
Date: 07/07/11 - 369 days ago.
Category: ABORTION
The Real Message from the Casey Anthony Trial
(Psalms 106:38) "They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and their daughters . . . and the land was polluted with blood . . . " - (Psalms 106:38 NIV)
The real message from the Casey Anthony trial. Tuesday afternoon in an Orlando courtroom, 25-year-old Casey Anthony, charged with killing her nearly 3-year-old little girl, was aquitted of the 3 felony charges that could have sent her to the death chamber. I am not interested in talking the facts surrounding this 3-year saga that has gotten worldwide attention. What I do want to talk about is why was Casey Anthony on trial for her life for killing her child, when every 24 hours in this nation 4,000 innocent babies are slaughtered. That is apx 4.4 MILLION babies legally slaughtered in this nation since the Anthony story became a public story in July of 2008.
I've done entire Devotionals in the past about the death penalty and will briefly mention it in a few minutes but I want to focus today on a very simple question. If Casey Anthong was going to be put to death for killing her child, one baby, why isn't every abortion doctor in this nation, guilty of killing hundreds, even thousands of babies, also facing the death pentalty for doing the same thing?
As I have watched the Peterson case unfold over these past 3 years, I have viewed the coverage on the various networks like FOX, MSNBC, CNN, In Session (formerly Court TV) and HLN. I have been particularly interested in the passion and conviction of hosts like Nancy Grace, Jane Velez-Mithcell, and other hosts, as well as the hundreds of expert commentators, as they shared their belief not only in Anthony's guilt but the fact she deserved to be put to death for her crimes.
However, the hypocrisy is that most of these same hosts and commentators also support a woman's right to kill her baby! They are PRO CHOICE or calling it what it really is, PRO DEATH! I have to admit that I am very confused. How can it be such a heinous crime for Casey Anthony to kill her baby yet, perfectly acceptable for a woman to make the choice to kill her baby at a local clinic? I am absolutely lost at how one is a crime worthy of death and the other is an acceptable choice.
Furthermore, I am equally confused how Anthony, who if found guilty could have spent her life all alone in a tiny cell on death row awaiting the day when the State of Florida would put her to death, while "doctors" all across this nation who make the choice to kill hundreds and thousands of unborn babies go home every night to nice comfortable home and look forward to all of the great things life has to offer.
IF CASEY ANTHONY COULD HAVE BEEN PUT TO DEATH FOR KILLING ONE BABY, EVERY DOCTOR WHO PERFORMS AN ABORTION SHOULD ALSO BE PUT TO DEATH!!!
The fact is, several dozen states now have "fetal homicide" statutes on the books. But to get these "fetal homicide" statutes passed, state legislators had to make ONE HUGE exemption. You guessed it. In cases of abortion with the mothers consent, these statutes do not apply to the abortion doctors. Do you see what twisted logic has to be used to accommodate sin?
For those of you who support a woman's right to slaughter her innocent baby, please save the emails with your tortured arguments. The fact is life comes from God. At the moment of conception there is a living person with an eternal soul. To kill that life for any reason is murder. PERIOD!
Also, for those who are against the death penalty, comparing that issue with abortion is like comparing apples to oranges. The death penalty, for which there is clear and concise Biblical support, is the punishment society enacts on those who made the concious choice to commit a heinous act that society has deemed death to be the punishment. The bottom line is abortion is killing an innocent baby who had no choice. The death penalty is society's punishment for someone who has been found guilty of choosing to commit a heinous act against that society. The baby is innocent. The person sentenced to death has been found guilty.
I love you and care about you so much. I want to speak directly today to anyone who may be contemplating having an abortion. Just remember this. No matter what anyone tells you, it is MURDER. There is simply no justification for it at all. You have only two options; have and raise the child or put the child up for adoption.
On the Liveprayer.com homepage, we have a special 55 second video clip of an actual abortion being performed. If you have not watched it, YOU MUST! This is what happens to over 4,000 innocent babies EVERY DAY in this nation! Since God led me to get this footage and put it on the website nearly two years ago, we have had over 3,000 emails from women who were contemplating having an abortion, watched the video, and changed their mind (Watch the incredible testimony of baby Delilah also on that same link). http://www.liveprayer.com/aborsion.cfm
Also, let me say a word to those men and women who have the scar of abortion in their lives. Sadly, I deal with hundreds of women daily AND men who have made this sad choice at some point in their life. Some of them did this 40 years ago and are still dealing with the hurt, pain, and guilt.
You can't go back and change what you have done but 1 John 1:9 says, "If we confess our sins, God forgives us and cleanses us of all unrighteousness." The Bible also tells us that God not only forgives our sins but forgets them. It is satan who reminds you of your past sins to keep you paralyzed from serving God. HE IS A LIAR!!! Now is the time to trust God's Word and put it behind you once and for all. God still has much for you to do with your life.
I am thankful for this high-profile case that made the clear statement if your are found killing an innocent baby you should face death. We need to, once and for all, take our Federal Government out of the business of legally sanctioning the annual slaughter of millions of innocent lives! How can we expect God to bless our nation when we allow this to happen? How long can we mock God without feeling His wrath? How far can we push God's grace?
HOW LONG WILL WE KEEP ASKING GOD TO BLESS AMERICAN, AND WHEN WILL WE AS A NATION START BLESSING GOD???
I read in the Old Testament how God's very own chosen people lived in blatant rebellion to Him. God tried to warn them. He sent messages through the events of their day. They ignored the messages. He sent His prophets to warn the people to repent and turn back to God. They wouldn't listen to his messengers. Eventually, God punished His people for their rebellion.
Our nation just celebrated our 235th birthday. We have been richly blessed with incredible wealth and power, but we are not immune from God's wrath. God is speaking to us through the events of our day and through those He has called to warn the people. I pray that we will listen, repent of our sins, and turn our hearts back to Him before it is too late. Killing a baby IS murder whether it happens in an act of violence or in a legal clinic!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller
Date: 07/04/11 - 372 days ago.
Category: ABORTION
America Celebrates Its 235th Year
(Proverbs 14:34)
God makes it clear in His Word that it is no accident who our rulers are, that it is God who puts those rulers in office and God who takes them out of office. We are to honor, respect, and pray for those God has placed in authority over us. Some may find this hard. Praying for our enemies is hard too, but that is what the Bible tells us to do. It was the example our Lord gave us on the cross as He forgave those who nailed him to that tree.
Do you realize that it was God who allowed Adolph Hitler to rise to power? It was God who allowed the Emperors of Rome to hold office. Never forget, the New Testament was written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit during the time Rome was in power and there was mass persecution of Christians. Yet God clearly calls us to pray for our leaders.
We have many problems in the United States today. Most of those problems like Medicare reform, gas prices, employment,health care, and taxes are all in the news and will be debated at length in the coming weeks, months, and years. However, these are logistical, practical problems. The real problems we face in this country are spiritual.
The practical application for your life today is this: Whatever problems you are facing in your life are NOT the real problems. Your finances may be a major issue today. Addiction to alcohol, drugs, gambling, or sex may be a major battle you are fighting. Your marriage may be in trouble. There may be health issues you are being confronted with. All of these issues, my friend, are surface problems, practical day-to-day real life issues we have to deal with. But the real problems in your life, just like the real problems in this country, are SPIRITUAL.
Anyone with common sense can look back on the brief history of the United States and see the Biblical principles upon which it was founded and set up to operate under. There can be no doubt that the greatness of this country, in spite of its very young age compared to countries in the rest of the world, are because of this personal relationship with God and His Word.
The problems we face today are because we have forgotten God, tossed His Word to the side, and decided to do it "our way". No more prayer in school. The legalized killing of millions of babies every year. God's plan for the family perverted. Bold and shameless marketing. Easy access to every kind of sin imaginable. Our great country, founded on Biblical principles, has misappropriated the freedoms God gave us. We have used our free will to consciously ignore God and to turn our back on Him. God gave us the ability to make that choice. But never forget there are consequences for our choices. There are consequences for rebelling against God.
This country has lived off of the obedience to God of our forefathers. We have enjoyed the blessings of their faithfulness. Unfortunately, the legacy we will leave to our children and grandchildren, should Jesus tarry, will be the consequences of our rebellion to God and His Word. 2 Chronicles 7:14 says, "if My people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." Deuteronomy 8:19 says, "If you ever forget the Lord your God and follow other gods and worship and bow down to them, I testify against you today that you will surely be destroyed."
It is not too late. However, we need spiritual leaders, who under the power of the Holy Spirit, will call the people of this great land to repentance. IT IS NOT THE JOB OF THE POLITICIANS TO DO THIS. It is the job of the spiritual leaders and only a spiritual revival will solve the real problems of this country. God is saying to those leaders today, to you pastors, to you who have been given a position of leadership, to those who have been blessed with a national and international platform..."quit building a kingdom to yourself and focus on building My kingdom...My people are perishing for lack of knowledge...give them the knowledge and lead them out of the darkness and into the light...come down from your self-built ivory tower that has been lavishly made with the blessings I have bestowed upon you...and feed my sheep...then LEAD my sheep...thus sayeth the Lord God of Israel...."
My friend, I love you and care about you. The relevance this word has to your life today is that the same problem this country has is your problem. You are focused on the external problems in your life, when the real problems are spiritual. Focus on that side of your life. Get back to the basics. Pray daily. Read the Word daily. Get in church. Find ways to serve God. Set your spiritual base, since everything in your life and who you are flows from there. As you solidify your spiritual base, you will find the day-to-day problems easier to handle.
I am praying for you. I am praying that just as this country needs a spiritual revival, you have a spiritual revival in your own life. That is the answer to building the foundation on which your life is built. The answer to the problems of this nation is the spiritual foundation we are on. Liveprayer is God's answer to leading this nation back to God and His Truth!!!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Date: 05/21/11 - 416 days ago.
Category: ABORTION
I Want to Encourage You Today
(Romans 8:28, Galatians 6:9)
I want to ENCOURAGE YOU today! I don't know exactly what you are facing in your life this moment, I don't know what your problems are, what trials and tribulations you are experiencing in your life right now. But I do know this, everyone reading these words today is going though something. No matter what it is, I want to give you a message right from the throne room of God...DON'T GIVE UP!!!
I am not going to tell you that all of your problems will be solved by the time you go to bed tonight, chances are they won't. I am not going to tell you that everything will work out exactly the way you want it to, chances are they won't. I am going to tell you, however, that God will provide the answers to whatever your problems may be. I am going to tell you, however, that God will work everything out. God promised us in His Word, "...and we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."
God told me to tell you today...DON'T GIVE UP!
If you are battling with an illness in your body today...DON'T GIVE UP! If you are battling with your finances today...DON'T GIVE UP! If you are battling with your marriage today...DON'T GIVE UP! If you are battling with your employment or schooling today...DON'T GIVE UP! If you are battling with your children today...DON'T GIVE UP! If you are battling with an addiction today...DON'T GIVE UP! NO MATTER WHAT YOUR BATTLE IS TODAY...DON'T GIVE UP!
My friend, God loves you. He knows what you are going through in your life today. He has not abandoned you, He has not forsaken you. In your darkest hour you can be assured that God is right there with you. When everyone else has turned their back on you, when everyone else has run away, when nobody is left to stand with you...GOD IS STILL THERE! On the night He was betrayed, Jesus saw His disciples run from Him, deny even knowing Him, yet He was never alone because God was with Him. Even when those you love the most leave you, Jesus is there because He promised to "never leave you nor forsake you."
God told me to tell you today...DON'T GIVE UP!
I love you and care about you so much. I want you to know that I am standing in the gap for YOU today. I am standing with you and believing God for your needs to be met. You may not see your answer today, or tomorrow, or next week, or next month, or even next year. God's timing is not our timing, but God's timing is always perfect. He is never a second too early, or a second too late. DON'T GIVE UP!
The children of Israel would have never seen the Promised Land had Moses given up. He wandered in the desert for forty years...FORTY YEARS! If God leaves us in the desert for forty minutes we are complaining! We can learn from Moses today that no matter what we are going though in our life, if we will continue to trust God, keep our faith in the Lord regardless what the circumstances may be, He will deliver us and meet our every need. The key however, is that you DON'T GIVE UP!
I will be praying for you today. Praying that the Lord will give you His peace no matter what you may be facing in your life at this moment. Praying that God will give you His strength today. Paul wrote to the church at Galatia to "...not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up." As you wait on God to answer your prayers, to meet your needs, continue to be faithful. Remember that as we are about our Father's business, He will be about our business!
God is saying to you that no matter what you are going through today...DON'T GIVE UP!!!
"Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain." (1 Corinthians 15:58)
*NOTE: Don't worry, I'll be here tomorrow with the Daily Devotional for Sunday May 22nd!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller
Date: 04/11/11 - 456 days ago.
Category: ABORTION
Why Does $300 Million Dollars of Our Tax Money Go to Slaughter Innocent Babies Every Year
(Exodus 20:13; Psalm 106:38; Jeremiah 1:5)
Why does $300 MILLION DOLLARS of our tax money go to slaughter innocent babies every year? It is amusing that what I have been talking about for 8 years now, was the main issue in the potential government shutdown this past weekend. I was SICK to hear those who support killing babies talking about this issue in the context of "women's health issues."
WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT GIVE TO PLANNED "HOW TO KILL YOUR BABY" PARENTHOOD HAS ZERO TO DO WITH WOMEN'S HEALTH ISSUES. IT IS ABOUT KILLING BABIES! THOSE WHO THROW VERBAL BOMBS ABOUT KILLING WOMEN ARE WRONG! IT IS ABOUT KILLING BABIES!!! HOW MANY YEARS HAVE I TALKED ABOUT THIS VERY ISSUE??????
I read about the Old Testaments prophets lamenting the fact they faithfully deliver the word God has told them to deliver to the people and nobody listened to them. I fully understand the frustration they felt and can empathize with them. For the nearly 12 years Liveprayer has been online, for the 8+ years the TV program has been on the air,
I have faithfully delivered God's message that the legalized slaughter of over 4,000 innocent babies every DAY was going to unleash God's wrath on this nation. We will never forget 9/11 and the 3,000 innocence people who died that day. We will always remember the horror of Hurricane Katrina and how it virtually destroyed one of the great cities in our country, killing hundreds and displacing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Yet, every 24 hours we legally slaughter 4,000 innocent babies and we never even give it a second thought!
*DID YOU THINK TODAY ABOUT THE FACT IN THE LAST 24 HOURS 4,000 INNOCENT BABIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY WERE SLAUGHTERED???
The leading baby killing organization in the world is Planned "how to kill your baby" Parenthood. They just released their financial data for fiscal 2005-2006 and here are the numbers. They brag that they performed a record 264,943 murders during the year. During that time they received $345.1 million in clinic income, $212.2 million in donations, and $305.3 MILLION DOLLARS FROM US TAX PAYERS!!! Their total income was $902.8 million with expenses of $847 million, leaving them a profit of $55.8 million dollars!!! What a great business they have!!!
Want a good contrast. Based on the actual ministry results we have generated over 8 years through the Internet and on TV, FOR A FRACTION OF WHAT PLANNED "how to kill your baby" PARENTHOOD GENERATED JUST IN THEIR DONATIONS, WE COULD SEE ALMOST AS MANY SOULS LED TO CHRIST AS BABIES THEY SLAUGHTERED!!!
The fact that our Federal Government makes the practice of infanticide legal in this nation is sickening to me, and I can only imagine how it sickens God. The fact that the Federal Government takes $300 MILLION TAX DOLLARS and gives it to this organization to slaughter babies disgusts me more than I can even begin to put into words. The government not only make killing babies legal, they actually take our tax dollars and give them to the leading organization whose sole purpose is to slaughter innocent babies.
My friend, we not only are long overdue God's wrath, but we deserve God's wrath! Forget the fact we have turned from God to worship the false gods and idols of the world. Forget the fact that we live in total rebellion to God and His Truth. Simply the fact that we slaughter over 4,000 innocent babies every single day in this nation is enough for us to suffer whatever punishment God metes out!
I keep asking myself when will this nation wake up? I am afraid like the children of Israel so many times in the Old Testament, we have become so lost in our sin, so blinded by our rejection of and rebellion to God, that we no longer possess a conscience. Our hearts are so hardened and our soul is seared that we no longer care. Knowing that it is only a matter of moments before God says enough is enough and pours out His wrath upon this nation, it would be easy for hopelessness to set in and do nothing. That is the mindset satan wants us to have. Instead, now is the time to do more! We are the victors, it is satan who is defeated!
I believe in my heart of hearts that we can see a real spiritual revival in this nation, and more importantly, see millions of lost souls turn from their sins and to faith in Jesus. The time has never been more ripe. I look at the fact this one organization whose sole goal is the slaughtering of innocent babies raised nearly ONE BILLION dollars last year. With just ONE PERCENT of that, Liveprayer can lead as many souls to everlasting life through faith in Jesus Christ as babies Planned "how to kill your baby" Parenthood can murder in a year!
I have to be honest with you, I am flesh and blood and weak like all men. It is so much easier to walk by sight than it is by faith. Over the weekend I entertained the thought of backing off, giving up on the TV program, forgetting about reaching more people on the Internet, and just ministering each day to those we currently are reaching. I thought that it would be nice to start focusing more on my wife and myself and go back to living a normal life. We have both made tremendous sacrifices these past 8 years for God's work.
It would be nice to just go to the office 5 days a week instead of 7, to take vacations every year, to quit working at home every day. We aren't getting any younger and it would be nice to take the time to do the things we want while we still can. Who needs the abuse I put up with each day plus having the constant burden of raising the money we need just to survive each month. How many crazies are out there right now looking to harm me or my wife. I preach the Truth each day to a world that has rejected the Bible and God and doesn't want to hear it.
God reminded me that my life was not mine any longer, that it belonged to Him. The Lord spoke to my heart that all God has allowed me to do these past 20 years, has all been for this moment in human history. He called me over 8 years ago to start Liveprayer by faith, to create this unique work of God on the Internet to reach the world with His Truth and the hope we have in Christ that nobody else was doing because He knew I wouldn't let the obstacles and battles make me quit.
He led me to start the TV program on secular television to compete with the programming of the world, again, to go where nobody else was and do what nobody else was doing to reach the lost and hurting because He knew I wouldn't give up. Whatever my wife and I have sacrificed in giving our lives to the Lord and His work all these years, we have been privileged and honored to do it and received more back than we ever gave up in knowing the true peace and joy and abundance of what this life is really about. My race is not complete, the prize is still ahead, and there is still much work for me to do before my journey is complete!
I love you and care about you so much. I have a renewed sense of purpose today, a new motivation, a new fire that has been lit inside of me. I will press on and keep giving everything I have each day to be faithful to the Lord's calling on my life. I want this message today to encourage you as well. God needs all of His children, now more than ever, to rise up and take their stand for Him in these last days. Each of us have our own specific calling, our own special missions to perform for the Master. Now is the time to be more faithful than ever. Now is the time to work harder than we ever have. Now is the time for make even greater sacrifices, to make even more of a commitment to the Lord and His work.
Can we ever take the Federal Government out of the business of slaughtering innocent babies? I pray daily for that moment to come. We have to do all we can to at least get them to stop funding this private organization whose only business is
killing innocent babies. In the meantime, as we fight those political battles, we have to keep fighting this issue on the ground by changing hearts and lives.
In just over a year since I put up the video of an actual abortion being performed on the Liveprayer website ( ttp://www.liveprayer.com/abortion.cfm ), we have received emails from over 5,000 women who were planning on killing their baby, watched that video, and decided to let their baby live. I have no doubt many more babies are alive today because of that one video clip. We have to continue to speak out and not be silent, to let women know there are options to killing their baby, to educate young people on God's plan for sex and relationships, and most important, lead people to faith in Christ and the Truth of His Word!
Planned "how to kill your baby" Parenthood is a sick and disgusting organization. How would you like to go to work each day at a place where their business is slaughtering innocent babies? They make their money by charging women to kill their baby. What a wonderful way to use some of what God has entrusted to you. They make their money through donations. How fulfilling it must be to go to sleep at night knowing that you sacrificed some of your hard earned dollars to help kill an innocent baby. They also are given hundreds of millions a year by the Federal Government to finance their baby killing business.
If people want to pay someone to kill their baby that is their choice. If someone wants to give their money to an organization whose business is killing babies, that is their choice. TO TAKE TAX DOLLARS AND GIVE THEM TO A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION SO THEY CAN SLAUGHTER INNOCENT BABIES IS UNCONSCIONABLE AND HAS TO STOP IMMEDIATELY
Please wake up!!! We not only live in, but we accept this culture of death that hangs over our nation. Jesus came to deliver us from death. Jesus won the victory over death. We do not have to accept this black cloud of death that hangs over our land. It is time Christians took our stand and loudly, boldly, visibly proclaimed LIFE! Children are growing up without any understanding of where life came from and how precious it is. So it is no wonder why they have embraced death to the extent they have. I have answered the call to lead this charge to bring our nation back to God and Biblical values. We have the infrastructure and resources to do it through Liveprayer. I am asking you to say NO to this culture of death we are living in and say YES to life!!! Don't underestimate how critical 15 minutes a day can be as you help me by following one, two, or all 3 of these action steps. People are saved daily, lives are impacted daily, because someone made the effort to share Liveprayer with that person. YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND TAKE A REAL STAND FOR CHRIST EACH DAY!
1. Distribute Liveprayer Daily Devotional - I need people to take each day's Daily Devotional and forward it to everyone that you know. This is a great way to help spread God's Word on the Internet. Also, post it to various blogs and message boards that you frequent.
2. Jonah Project - Tell everyone that you know to check out the Jonah Project. This is the vehicle God has given us to bring together true followers of Jesus Christ in these last days in one group that can make an incredible impact on the spiritual course of this nation and in millions of people's lives. There is a vision video on the Jonah Project homepage that clearly lays out how God can use this group in these last days. You can access the Jonah Project website by going to Liveprayer.com and clicking on the Jonah Project link.
3. Fundraising - Unlike other ministries, Liveprayer has ZERO paid fundraisers or development people. Again, I just never went the route all major ministries go of having a staff of people who do nothing but contact donors and go out to raise funds. All we do each day, all that we provide is made available for FREE to take God's Word into the marketplace and impact lives for Christ. Obviously it takes money to operate. I've simply shared our needs and walked by faith that God would provide each month. Raising money is a special gift. I am praying that those who have that special gift and want to serve God will help me in this area.
The fact is, there are lots of people who God has blessed and are giving to many different causes. Liveprayer is a highly visible ministry, a track record of over 10years, and the fruit of literality millions of changed lives as a testimony that this is fertile soil for people to give into. Obama had literally thousands of regular people collecting money for his campaign. Normal people with no special skills or gifts in raising money. They simple believed in his work and got people to give towards it.
I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE LIVEPRAYER FAMILY WHO BELIEVE IN GOD'S WORK HERE WHO COULD SUCCESSFULLY GET PEOPLE YOU KNOW TO GIVE TO HELP US DO ALL THAT WE DO EACH DAY FOR SO MANY AROUND THE WORLD.
Are you ready to take your stand for Christ??? Liveprayer is a life-changing vehicle God has been using for nearly 11 years now to impact literally tens of millions of lives all over the world. We have tapped into the great technology of our day to reach the world and individual lives with the Truth of God's Word and the hope and love of Jesus Christ. I can't do this alone. Now more than ever it is critical for each person who knows the Lord to step up and allow Him to use your life. I have given you 6 action steps. You can choose one, two, or all six depending on how the Lord is leading you.
I refuse to accept this culture of death we live in. I am asking you to take your stand for Christ and help me change this nation into a culture of LIFE, abundant now and everlasting through faith in Jesus Christ!!!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller
Yes, Rollercoasterfan did post a lot of these, and got much the same response. Though I must say RCF's responses to our responses were at least a bit more entertaining. Mygodchosenbride&i4lifefinally is completely avoiding answering any of our questions. That's not to say RCF's answers meant anything, but at least they existed.
Maybe his god-chosen bride is RCF, and he turned him onto Bill Keller.
Get this baggage, Obomma out of the whitehouse!
Woe! Like, I know this is probably irrelevant but, shouldn't this totally go on Safe Haven instead?
Nope. Doesn't deserve that privilege.
Bill Keller is a certified worthless piece of shit. This is the same dumb fuck who has preached against other religions, He has also encouraged bigotry against homosexuals.
The fact you keep posting this guys bullshit proves you have no mind of your own. It also proves you are a mindless sheep.
My god chosen bride is an insult to his religion, and a spineless cowardly intellectually deprived fuck besides. We probably should stop posting here all together because all we're doing is feeding his trolling. Because that's all it is. He doesn't really want to spread a message of piece and love, he just wants to goad people in to attacking him. Again, not very christian at all. If there really is an afterlife (which I question, particularly in the christian sense) There is enough in the bible to suggest he will be going to hell. Now isn't that a comforting thought?
mygodchosenbride&i4lifefinally:
I realize you are probably young and idealistic and can't really see beyond the present, a bit of irony since you speak of eternal matters. But consider that this person's works are probably copyrighted, and there is a clause forbidding distribution without prior written permission. Now, a shared link is not distribution in that you are not reprinting the material. A shared link would be letting someone look at a copy, but what you have done here is tantamount to photocopying. Now I doubt you would be sued over this, or the Zone would be sued over this, being a small population and nobody is financially benefitting from these posts.
But churches have been sued for photocopying music. Community centers have been sued for photocopying information from magazines and other publications.
Maybe this guy has no clause restricting distribution, and if that is all so, you are in the clear. but I caution you - just as I caution some fundamentalist relatives on Facebook, in your haste and zeal to get another notch in the belt, to check the fine print.
By way of example, in my offline life I am a software professional, and I never reveal for whom I work in my online life. The reason is, I never want to be caught in a mistake where someone asks something and I accidentally divulge something that is not yet released. Google and Apple - and to some extent Microsoft - have all fired engineers over said mistakes. Data is property. Even your news sites will forbid unauthorized distribution - today's copy and paste, which was yesterday's photocopy. Only today, they all allow redistribution by sharing publicly available links.
All of this is a warning if in fact This guy Bill Keller rote the original material. You never so much as cited your source, only crediting the author which is not complete. Looks like it's probably time for you to put on a pair of pants, look beyond your need for immediate gratification, and grow up a little: consider the consequences of the modern version of photocopying a magazine article and passing those copies around to all your friends and enemies alike. Failure to do so has had very real consequences for a lot of people over the years, before and after the Internet.
Oh, Keller's a teddybear compared to Fred Phelps. I tell ya, when that old bastard finally dies, I'm gonna drop whatever I may be doing, and go out and celebrate.
if I remember correctly, the original poster is in his 40's or older. and, I wholeheartedly agree with James about him being a troll.
Yeah, and did anyone look at his profile recently? I don't know whether to be disturbed or entertained--or both. This guy, the very same one who posts all this pseudoChristian bullshit, pisses in his bed, thinks it's sexy to fuck a girl on a toilet (although, that's a fettish, and to each his own, I suppose), and is looking for what seems more like a god chosen mommy than a god chosen bride. Good god!
Hey, dude, have you finally found your God Chosen Bride yet? I hope to god that no, indeed you haven't. Because any woman who gets stuck with you will have surely been punished by god. And that, I think, is cruel and unjust punishment. lol
He's still waiting around for God to pick his bride. Meanwhile, Mr. and Mrs. God are having a huge argument because she locked him out of his god-cave again after he was caught cavorting and drinking nectar with three or four of the more attractive demi-goddesses. Naughty naughty god, he is.
I understand that many preachers preach fear of God, but this one is the worst so far.
God is love, and love is understanding, not punishment.
As to Leo, I believe the posters preacher would love the fact his message is getting out to us. I for one wouldn't waste my time reading his post on Facebook. I skim them here.
Just sad business.
It JUST SO HAPPENS, by the way, that I will be, OFFICIALLY, a VERY HAPPILY MARRIED MAN, as of SATURDAY, MAY 4, 2013, to my "GOD-CHOSEN MOMMY," to whom I've been ENGAGED, since THIS PAST APR. 30. As far as you attacking either ME or PASTOR BILL KELLER, ABSOLUTELY NO SUCH SORT'S the CASE, because it's GOD, who YOU and I will STAND BEFORE ONE DAY, that you're ATTACKING.
DAILY DEVOTIONAL WEDNESDAY JULY 11, 2012 (Genesis 1-2:3)
***COMING THIS WEEK! Tomorrow, Glenn Beck's Dallas event later this month that is nothing more than his latest scam on mostly gullible Christians that will not "change the world," only put millions in his pocket with the help of many high profile Christians this satanic cult member has bought and paid for like a cheap suit! Don't miss any of the powerful life-changing, soul-saving Devotionals next week!
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***ASK BILL: Pastor Bill, I am a mother of 3 who has our own Bible lesson and praise on Sunday morning instead of going to a church. My husband works Fri-Mon so its just me and my children. I have found when I get involved with a church it turns into a gossip club. Is it wrong for me to teach my children on Sundays instead of them going to Sunday school?
ANSWER: The Bible warns us in Hebrews not to forsake the fellowship of others. Being part of a local church body is an important part of our spiritual journey and growth, especially for children. It is great you have Bible lessons with your children, and you should continue! I hear you about the politics and gossip at church, sadly, that will always be part of any group of people, even in church. I would ask you pray and seek the Lord about finding a good church home, since it is important for your children, and for you and your husband. I will be praying for you and your family as God gudies you.
The "god particle!" Last week, the scientific community was ecstatic over their discovery of what they call the "god particle." This is the supposed missing piece that caused the big bang, that in turn led to the creation of our world. I sat in amazement as one news cast after another lauded this great find as the answer to our existence. For the secular media, it was vindication that there is no "God" and this universe and everything in it, including us, are the product of a cosmic accident.
Garbage! My only question to these scientists who discovered this "god particle" is this, WHO CREATED THE GOD PARTICLE??? It couldn't appear out of nowhere. This is where the attempts by those who refuse to believe their is a Creator always fall down. At the end, there is still something, a cell, a "god particle," something, whose existence can't be explained. They could save themselves a lifetime of work, untold millions, but simply picking up the book God Himself wrote and read the first chapter of Genesis. All of the answers they seek are right there!
There is probably nothing that angers me more than Christians, followers of Christ, who don't have the guts to stand up for the Truth of the Bible. Believers who feel the pressure of this lost world we live in to compromise the immutable truths of the Bible. A new term we have created to talk about Biblical creationism is "intelligent design." I get livid every time I hear that word used since we have created it solely for the purpose of being able to share our beliefs on how this world we live in and we came to exist. I submit to you today that "intelligent design" is simply a gutless word for those too afraid to say we believe what the Bible teaches about creation in Genesis 1-2:3!
There are two competing views on how this world and how we came to exist. One is the theory of evolution that suggests over millions of years we evolved. This is the position held by those in the scientific community that reject the notion of "God." The other view is that there is a Supreme Being, a God who created everything. This is the position people of faith and those in the scientific community who accept the reality of a "God" hold. Let me end decades of arguments on this issue right now and tell you exactly how this world and we came to exist. GOD TELLS US IN GREAT DETAIL IN GENESIS CHAPTER ONE THROUGH CHAPTER TWO VERSE THREE!
My friend, this world and all that is in it, including us, came into existence EXACTLY how the Bible tells us in Genesis 1-2:3! For every child and young adult out there that is in school, your homework assignment today is to read the first chapter of Genesis through the first 3 verses of chapter 2. Now you will never have to wonder or guess again how we came to be or how this world and all that is in it came to exist. GOD SPOKE IT INTO EXISTENCE EXACTLY AS THE BIBLE SAYS! GOD CREATED MAN FROM THE DUST OF THE EARTH AND MADE HIM IN HIS IMAGE EXACTLY AS THE BIBLE SAYS! PERIOD! END OF DEBATE!
First of all, the theory of evolution is just that, a theory. A completely foolish one I might add. Not only have a large percentage of those in the scientific community abandoned it, the only reason it is still taught is because those who reject the existence of God have to have some explanation how this world came to exist and how we came to be. That is why I pity those who champion this theory, since even they have no explanation when you take what they believe back to the very beginning. They say we evolved from monkeys. As you walk them backwards all the way to the very beginning, you are still left with the unanswered question of where did that first cell come from? It is the same problem those who try to explain the existence of the earth and all that is in it without there being a "God." You take them back to the very beginning and you are still left with the unanswered question of how did that first event come to be without the involvement of a "God."
The biggest problems with those who hold to a position that this
world, we, came into existence without a "God," is that it means this is all an accident and we exist by mere chance with no real plan or purpose. If you believe we evolved from pond scum to monkeys, then our lives are utterly meaningless and this life has no purpose to it at all. For those who truly believe this, they are to be pitied among all men. What a sad existence if you go through this life believing you were an accident and your life has zero meaning or purpose.
That leaves us with the position held by those who do believe there is a "God" who created the earth and all that is in it, including us. I spent several semesters in seminary studying all of the various theories put forth to explain Biblically how the Bible could be correct and there could still have been million of years involved in the creation process. Theories that accepted the existence of a "God," but not exactly how the Bible describes creation. After many hours alone with the Holy Spirit and God's Word, I came to one conclusion. THE ONLY ACCOUNT OF HOW THIS WORLD CAME TO EXIST AND HOW WE CAME TO BE WAS GOD'S ACCOUNT IN GENESIS CHAPTER 1! God literally spoke the world and all that is in it into existence in 6 literal days. and this world we live in is less than 7,000 years old!
Here is the problem if you take any other position. Once you start making excuses for what God's Word says, once you start finding ways for it to say something other than what it clearly and literally says, you are now playing a dangerous game. If the Biblical account of creation is not exactly as God says, what else isn't exactly as God says? Did the walls of Jericho really come down the way the Bible says, or is there another explanation? Did the Red Sea really part as the Bible says, or is there another explanation? Did Noah's ark really exist as the Bible says or is their another explanation? Did Jesus really rise from that tomb on the third day as the Bible says, or is there another explanation? ARE WE REALLY SAVED BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AS THE BIBLE SAYS, OR IS THERE ANOTHER EXPLANATION?
You see the problem? Once you start to doubt one part of God's Word, you have to start to doubt other parts of the Bible. My friend, you are free to believe whatever you want about the creation of this earth and all that is in it, about how we came to exist. I am NOT going to argue with you. There are many great ministries out there that deal with these issues. There are tons of great books that go into great detail on this subject. I choose to put my faith and belief in God's Word alone. I believe in BIBLICAL CREATIONISM. This world and all that is in it and we came to exist EXACTLY how God says in His Word!
I love you and care about you so much. One hundred years ago, even those who rejected God and His Word knew that God created the heavens and earth and created them as well. Fifty years ago, those in the scientific community that rejected God was doing its best to propagate this laughable theory of evolution even though the vast majority of people thoroughly rejected it. Now, in 2006 after 40 years of no prayer and Bible teaching in school, having allowed society to take God out of every aspect of public life, those who hold to the Biblical account of Creation are laughed at as narrow-minded mental midgets while those who "know how to think" hold to a theory that says we came from pond scum and makes our life nothing more than an accident with no purpose.
For those who know the Bible to be God's inspired, inerrant Word, representing Absolute Truth and our final authority in all matters, we have NOTHING to apologize for and nothing to be ashamed of. We certainly have no reason to be trying to hide our beliefs by creating terms like "intelligent design" so we appear to be more intellectual to this nonbelieving world. The fact we are even discussing what is so clear from God's Word only shows how void of God and His Truth our society has become. The last thing those who know Chris as their Savior and hold to the Truth of His Word need to be doing is compromising or minimizing the power of that Truth. The world is HUNGRY for the truth we possess. The next time someone asks you how the world came to exist, how we came to be, tell them the answer is exactly as described in Genesis 1-2:3. God Himself tells us the answer and that is good enough for me!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Date: 05/03/12 - 69 days ago.
Category: CHOICE
It's Time to Decide Which Side You are On
(1 Corinthians 10:21)
"Dear Pastor Keller, I would like to give you an update on my progress. A long time ago, I have prayed that prayer to invite Christ into my heart. I received your booklet, and read through it. Since then, I have become involved with a church, am praying more and reading the scriptures. Next month, I will be confirmed to that church through baptism. I have no doubt that this is the plan of my salvation that heavenly Father has put in place for me. I know that through the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, anything can be accomplished. It all started with Liveprayer.com. Thank you Pastor Keller for all you do. God bless you! Jessie"
THIS is what all of the sacrifices so many make each day is about. Through boldly and without shame or compromise taking the simple message of the Gospel and the hope we have in Christ to the masses in the marketplace, every day we see the fruit of those efforts in the very real lives of those God touches through His work here. LIVES ARE BEING TRANSFORMED BY THE POWER OF GOD AND SOULS ARE BEING SAVED!!!
As the prophet Elijah said on Mt. Carmel in 1 Kings 18, "If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal is god, follow him." It is time to decide whose side you are on. The days of trying to play both sides are over. It is time to decide whose side you are on. The days of living with one foot in the church, and one foot in the world are over. It is time to decide whose side you are on. The battle lines are being drawn my friend.
Most people don't want to think of this life as a war, but that is exactly what it is. On one side we have God, the Creator of the heavens and earth, our Creator that loves us. The Bible says that it is God's desire that all come to repentance and none be lost. It was God's plan from the beginning that man spend eternity with Him. On the other side, we have satan, a fallen angel that for this brief season we call human history, is working to drag as many souls as possible with him into an eternity of torment in hell. This war is for the eternal souls of every man and woman that is born.
>From the garden of Eden until today this war has raged on. God created us perfect, with the free will to love Him. However, that free will also gave us the ability to rebel against God, otherwise, we would be little more than robots. Sadly, man made the choice to disobey God, and now sin would be part of the human condition and destroy the perfect world God had created for us to live in. The war for the human soul had begun.
Satan has come up with every plan imaginable to keep us lost in our sin and separated from God for eternity. He has used our desire for God to help us create the false religions of the world to lead us away from God's saving grace. He has worked hard to undermine God's holy institution of marriage started in Genesis 2:24 and destroy God's plan for the family. Satan uses our sin nature to help put is in bondage to things like drugs, alcohol, money, sex outside of marriage, and anything else that can destroy our life. Whatever satan can do to separate us from God, he will do. After all, in John 10 Jesus clearly tells us that satan's desire is to "steal, kill, and destroy."
As the last days of human history are fast approaching, satan is now in full, all out war against the church. Make no mistake, the church has ALWAYS been a major target of satan. From the tabernacles and temples in the Old Testament, to the dawn of the church age in the book of Acts, through today, satan has corrupted men and women of God in leadership and used division of every kind to keep the church from being all God intends it to be.
You see, the church has been, and still is, God's primary instrument in this world today. It is through the church that billions of souls throughout the years have found an everlasting relationship with God through faith in Jesus Christ. It is the church that is still responsible for taking God's message of hope in Christ to this lost, hurting, and dying world.
So do not be surprised that satan is working hard to destroy the church. Destroy the church through false teachings like "all good people will go to Heaven." Destroy the church by allowing blatant and unrepentant sin to be accepted and embraced. Destroy the church by denying the Bible to be God's inspired, inerrant Word, representing absolute truth, and our final authority in all matters. Destroy the church by doing everything possible to divide the Body of Christ. But NEVER forget that Jesus said the "gates of hell" will not overcome the church!
I love you and care about you so much. The battle lines are drawn. This is NOT a game. It is an all out war and the eternal souls of people are at stake. People are dying and going to hell for eternity every day. For the last 40 years, the church has been sitting back and playing defense and satan has been scoring lots of points. It is time for the church to start playing offense. We have the power of the Holy Spirit with us. NOTHING can stop us. We already know the final score. GOD WINS!!!
Paul wrote, "You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord's table and the table of demons." - 1 Corinthians 10:21
Like Elijah, I am challenging you today. If you are a Christian, then follow Christ. The battle lines are clearly drawn. Jesus said that you can't serve two masters. It is time to choose. Who are you going to follow?
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In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Date: 10/31/11 - 254 days ago.
Category: CHOICE
Who Will You Serve
(Judges 13:24, 14:3, 16:1, 16:21, 16:30)
No matter long you have been saved, no matter how greatly God is using your life, the fact is that we each wake up in the morning and face the choice of who we will serve that day. I have used the life of Samson in various opportunities that I have had over my years in the ministry when I was speaking to pastors or men's groups. But Samson's life is very applicable for this message today, in regard to the choice that you will make today, and every day, as to exactly WHO you will serve.
Samson was miraculously born to a mother who was unable to conceive a child. He was dedicated to God's service, even before he was conceived. While many may scoff at this, I have known many women who were unable to have children, but after much prayer and seeking God, their once barren womb brought forth life! Just in the short 43 months Liveprayer ha been online, we have had 2 such births that I can recall off of the top of my head. Samson was dedicated to the Lord's service, grew up being taught all about God, and the Bible says that the 'Spirit of God' was upon his life.
One of the points that I want to stress today is that here was a man, dedicated to God even before he was conceived, raised in the "church" of his day, and had a heart so close to God that the Bible even says God's Spirit was upon him. DESPITE THIS, SAMSON, JUST LIKE YOU AND I, WOKE UP EVERY MORNING AND HAD TO MAKE CHOICES THROUGHOUT THE DAY WHO HE WOULD SERVE!
The Bible says that the devil comes to kill, steal, and destroy. If you have accepted Christ into your heart by faith, the Bible says that you are saved (John 3:16, Romans 10:10, Ephesians 2:8,9). However, even though the devil can't have your eternal soul, he can destroy your life, steal the joy, peace, and abundance Jesus promised those who followed Him would know during our brief journey here, and kill us..literally.
Over the years I have known many great men and women of God who allowed sin in their life to consume them to the point of death. One dear brother got into the bondage of drug addiction and died from an overdose. One pastor I know looked to alcohol instead of the Lord in times of trouble and alcohol eventually destroyed his lived and he died much earlier then he should have because of it. One sister who did many great things for God allowed the enemy to throw her into a state of depression to the point that she took her own life.
SATAN IS NOT THE CLASS CLOWN, A CARTOON CHARACTER, OR SOME MISCHIEVOUS PARTY ANIMAL THAT LOVES TO HAVE FUN. SATAN IS A VERY REAL ENEMY WHO PLAYS FOR KEEPS AND IS OUT TO DESTROY THE LIFE OF THE CHILD OF GOD, STEAL ALL OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT THIS LIFE CAN OFFER, AND LITERALLY HELP YOU MAKE CHOICES THAT WILL KILL YOU! HE IS NOT PLAYING GAMES!
As you read through the life of Samson, he chose to turn from God over and over. Samson knew how God felt about being unequally yoked with non-believers. Samson knew God's plan for marriage. Samson knew God forbids sex outside of marriage. Yet, Samson's weakness was women; women who did not know or honor the God of Israel. The enemy is persistent. He will tempt the child of God over and over and over until he finds the weakness in their life. Samson's weakness was women.
Each day, just like you and me, Samson had to choose who he would serve that day. As much as the anointing of God was on his life, even though he served God in miraculous ways, even though God used him to bless many, IT WAS SAMSON WHO HAD TO MAKE THE CHOICE EACH DAY WHO HE WOULD SERVE. Over and over, Samson chose sin over God. Over and over, God showed his love and grace to Samson and gave him chances to straighten his life out. But Samson took God's grace and mercy for granted, refused to turn from his sin, and it was his sin that ultimately destroyed his life, stole all of the blessings God had for him, and ultimately, killed him.
Let me encourage you today. If you have chosen to serve sin, have allowed things to enter into your life that God does not approve of, TODAY is the day that you can stop. Is it that easy? NO WAY! It will be the hardest thing that you have ever done. But if you take the first step, God will strengthen you and help you to turn away from sin, and back to Him.
THE CHOICE THAT YOU MAKE TODAY COULD LITERALLY SAVE YOUR LIFE! BUT IT IS A CHOICE THAT YOU MUST MAKE. NOBODY CAN MAKE IT FOR YOU.
I love you and care for you so much. God loves you and cares for you even more. Each day, He gives you the choice to love Him and serve Him. Even those who have loved Him and served Him for many years, STILL, each day must make that choice. I pray today that you learn from Samson's life, and choose God.
Each day I get hundreds of emails from all over the world from people saying that what I write is intolerant, it isn't for "today", that there is nothing wrong with doing what we want. They simply don't understand that God loves us SO MUCH, that He sent His word to encourage us and guide us along our journey here. How He shows us to live our life is not to keep us from enjoying our life, but to know the peace, joy, and abundance that this life can offer. However, He loves us enough to give us the freewill to choose each day, whether we will serve Him or not.
That is a choice that I will make today, and it is a choice that YOU will make today. My prayer today is that you will choose to serve God
In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
JUST AS A REMINDER: Not that you DO need reminding, but ALL ABOVE MESSAGES that PASTOR KELLER has DELIVERED, which I'VE POSTED, as I'll DEFINITELY CONTINUE to POST MORE, are DEFINITELY ENDORSED by GOD, who enables ME to post them, in the FIRST place.
Your MOMMY,? You are talking about a lady, or what please?
"god chosen MOMMY,?"
In my culture your MOMMY, is your mother? Hope not!
Please explaiin this?
NO, she's DEFINITELY NOT my MOTHER, but MY MOMMY! The VERY ABSOLUTE LOVE of MY LIFE!
Poor woman.
Where does the term come from?
I've heard momma, or daddy, but that is usually after a couple has been married a while. This one I've not heard, so I'm interested?
Those that want to cridisize, why are you here!
If you don't like the poster's messages, find some where else to go.
Sounds like these messages are bothering you and you don't want to know the truth!
I am not trying to start any trouble here, but complaining about the poster's messages isn't going to get you all anywhere!
You are just adding fire to the fuel by answering his posts.
Praise the lord! I hope you all find him and letting the lord in your lives and your hearts.
@Post 72 I stand corrected, properly upbraided for having assumed rather than checked a profile.
Mommy? Really? this is an Internet troll, kids. Chicks for 40 years have resented their men referring to them as 'mom' even when they were not treating her like that. To that end, when referring to my wife as 'mom' (only when talking to the daughter), I always say 'your mom' not 'mom' like our grandparents' generation and some of our parents' generation did. I am neither prude nor feminist nor politically correct, but I am respectful and it seems most women have been extremely clear on that issue.
And the "sin" of our fathers was to call the wife mom or mama never mommy, and as men they were not even behaving as young boys. And even when they did, they were still involved in domestic chores and the like, not relegating it exclusively to women. Sounds like dangerous ground. Once a white chick is resentful, it's really difficult, if not impossible, to undo. Like all biohazardous materials, that is something to be avoided.
Glory, do you honestly believe his posts are accomplishing anything more than our responses? Also, you talk about us adding fuel to the fire as though you admit that he's just trolling. Your message is full of inconsistancies, and I'm really not sure how you expect to get the message of god across that way.
We are here, because we were ivited to listen to this preachers daily messages, or read them on Facebook.
Now when you invite people to do this you are also saying "this man is great and speaking the truth, so lets all listen and praise him and say Amen!"
We did and disagreed, so we're saying so.
Well. I guess there's a foot for every shoe then. lol. I truly feel sorry for the prospective mommyBride. But then again, maybe if our original poster gets busy in the bedroom, or on the toilet as it may be, after he's oh so happily married, or mothered--Maybe he'll have less time to infect our poor minds with this tub of trash.
I too, would like to know how this guy gets the appeal to call a girlfriend/wife/fiance his mommy. It sounds to me like a case of.. what do they call it? infantilism or something.. but I won't get into that...
My ONLY WORDS of ABSOLUTE "CONSOLATION" to THOSE OF YOU that are DEFINITELY DISAPROOVING of MY CALLING MY FIANCE "MOMMY" are: "GET OVER IT." NEXT, I turn "THE MIKE" over to BILL KELLER:
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ANSWER: 2 Corinthians 5:8 clearly states the verse you quoted. It is also our Biblical evidence that the moment we take our last breath, we will stand before God and at that moment you either know Christ as your Savior and will be in Heaven for eternity, or you have rejected faith in Christ and will be cast into hell for eternity. No limbo, no such place as "purgatory," nobody is going to pray you out of hell after the fact.
"Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, 'I will dwell in them and walk among them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate,' says the Lord. 'And do not touch what is unclean; And I will welcome you. And I will be a Father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to Me,' Says the Lord Almighty." (2 Corinthians 6:14-18)
"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God's curse!
Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ. I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ." (Galatians 1:6-12)
Glenn Beck's latest SCAM on the Christian community. Satanic Mormon cult member Glenn Beck has morphed his media conglomerate from preaching a conservative political ideology, into a quasi spiritual movement that makes him tens of millions of dollars by scamming the watered down, compromised, and Biblically illiterate Christian community.
200 years ago, when the documented con-artist, racist, polygamist, murdering, pedophile Joseph Smith was inspired by satan to start the Mormon cult, the Christian church correctly identified Smith as a heretic and blasphemer, preaching a false Gospel. Smith was run out of every town he tried to settle in to gain converts for his new cult. 200 years after the founding of his cult, a heretic and blasphemer like Beck has now sucked in millions of true Christians by making them believe he also is a Christian.
THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH 200 YEARS AGO UNDERSTOOD THAT THE DOCTRINES SMITH ESPOUSED WERE NON-BIBLICAL AND FROM THE PITS OF HELL! MORMON DOCTRINE IS IN 100% CONTRADICTION TO BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY AND A MORMON IS NO MORE A CHRISTIAN THAN A MUSLIM IS!
Beck uses his various media platforms to share a conservative political ideology. There is NOTHING he says that you can't hear 100x a day on various radio and TV programs. He has tapped into the Tea Party movement to expand his outreach, and if anyone doesn't understand he is using all of his resources to help elect fellow Mormon cult member Mitt Romney you need to wake up!
While Beck's media empire is based on politics, don't be fooled. He is and has been a loyal and active member of the Mormon cult. Like all of those in his cult, Glenn "the truth lives here" Beck, LIES every time he talks about being a "Christian" and believing in "God" and "Jesus." Beck openly tells people it doesn't matter what God they believe in. He also pushes "good works," since his cult teaches that you can't attain your "god status" when you die without a certain amount of good works.
Because of his politics, the good works he espouses, and his cleverness to buy off several well known Christians, Beck's following and finances come primarily from Christians who have bought into this last days wolf in sheep's clothing. I hear people all the time say, "how can such a nice man be evil?"
Beck is the epitome of the "false prophet" the Bible speaks of. A false prophet leads people AWAY from God and His Truth. With the better percentage of two full generations having never been to church, it is sad how many souls will end up in hell because they fell into the false gospel of Beck's cult.
By the way, MILLIONS worldwide follow the Scientology cult and their lies to hell. The sad thing about Beck's following is that it is largely made up of true Biblical Christians who are following a false shepherd. People email me that they will never fall for Beck's Mormon beliefs, and many well grounded Christians won't, but a large percentage of people Beck lures in are NOT rooted and grounded. My only question is why would any Bible believing Christian follow a false prophet who is part of a satanic cult leading souls to hell???
Beck's latest money making opportunity cloaked in his brand of "spirituality," involves a rally later this month in Dallas. First, please understand that NOTHING Beck does, does he do for free. From his radio program, to his TV program, to his website, to his books, to his public appearances, EVERYTHING Beck does is geared to make him a small fortune. Listen, there is nothing wrong with Beck making money, however, he makes the bulk of his money from the unsuspecting and blind Christian community who have been brainwashed into thinking Beck is also a Christian, that Beck brags about "tithing" to "his church." How sad that Christian people are helping the Mormon cult preach its' false gospel that is leading souls to hell!
To help perpetuate the lie he is a Christian, Beck has found high profile Christians like David Barton, James Robison, John Hagee, and others who are more than willing to sell out the faith to stand next to Beck for whatever short term exposure and monetary gain they receive for credibility. They don't have the guts to look into the camera and challenge Beck about the fact what his cult believes is in 100% contradiction to Biblical Christianity. Instead, they stay silent and help him perpetuate to his Biblically illiterate audience the lie he is a Christian.
The damage is that in this day of watered down, compromised churches, many using seeker/purpose driven/emerging church/prosperity marketing strategies designed to simply put warm bodies in the seats, the vast majority of the people who are in church are Biblically illiterate. If many in our churches see nothing wrong with homosexuality, abortion, so why would they see anything wrong with a "nice Christian man" like Beck?
Note: Pay close attention in the coming weeks and months to the high profile Christians who will sell out the faith to give Beck credibility for this Dallas rally.
Like all members of his cult such as Romney and Huntsman, Beck talks about "god" and "jesus" and quotes the Bible. There is one HUGE problem. The "god" and "jesus" of the Mormon cult are NOT the God and Jesus of the Bible, nor do they believe the Bible is our final authority in all matters!
Here are just a few of the theological issues that makes the satanic Mormon cult totally inconsistent with Biblical Christianity and why a Mormon is no more a Christian than a Muslim is. These are the things the lying Mr. Beck won't tell you, so I will. The god of the Mormon cult is NOT the God of the Bible. Their "god" is named Elohim and was once a man like you and I who came from another planet. Mormon theology teaches that men can eventually become a god and have their own planet. Beck, as a member of this cult, believes that he too will one day become a god. When he talks about "god," he is talking about this fictitious god of Mormonism and NOT the God of the Bible! This holds true for Jesus. The jesus of Mormon theology is not God incarnate as the Bible teaches. The Mormon jesus was not supernaturally conceived by the Holy Ghost, but the natural offspring of their "god" Elohim who had sex with Mary, meaning he is a created being no different than you and I. Mormons also teach that their jesus had several wives and children, again, in compete contradiction to what the Bible teaches. The jesus of Beck and the Mormon cult is also the brother of Lucifer and will return not to the Mt. Of Olives as the Bible teaches, but to Independence, Missouri to set up his earthly Kingdom. When Beck talks about "jesus," he is NOT talking about the true Jesus of the Bible!
*What Jesus you put your faith in is so critical, since this is why anyone who puts their faith in the imaginary jesus of Joseph Smith and the satanic Mormon cult instead of the Jesus of the Bible, will die in their sins and their souls burn forever in the flames of hell!
What about the Bible and true Christian churches? Mormons love to use the Bible and quote from the Bible to support their deception that they are Christians. The trademark of all cults and false religions, even those who use the Bible, is that it is NOT their final authority. In the Mormon cult, their authority does not come from the Bible which they view as incomplete and not reliable, but the writings of Smith, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants. These are the writings that form the false theology of this cult.
Beck and all Mormons believe that non-Mormons are "abominations." While they don't have the guts the Muslims do to publicly call a non-Muslim an infidel who should be put to death, a Mormon views a Biblical Christian as part of a "false religion" and void of all authority. Glenn Beck believes a Bible-believing Christian, the very people he is courting so hard, are an abomination!
Like in all cults, the average member hasn't got a clue what their cult really believes. You only get to know everything after you have proven yourself to be a loyal and worthy member of the cult. That is true in the Mormon cult as well. Most Mormons go to their "church," sing many of the same hymns they sing at the Baptist church down the road, give their tithe, read a few passages out of the Bible, hear a message about being a "good person," and go home. It is only when you get to become a "temple Mormon" that you really learn all of the deep, dark, beliefs of Mormonism.
The Mormon temple rituals are actually little more than the temple rituals Smith copied from another cult, Freemasonry! Smith who was involved in the Masonic cult, simply copied and incorporated their chants, handshakes, and ceremonies when he started the Mormon cult. DONE IN SECRET, NOT IN THE LIGHT OF DAY, these are the same chants, handshakes, and ceremonies temple Mormons like Mitt Romney participated in when they take their oath to the Mormon cult above anything else, INCLUDING THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND CONSTITUTION!
The average person has no idea that the ultimate goal of the Mormon cult is to establish a Mormon theocracy here in the United States. Joseph Smith, the cult's founder actually ran for the Presidency. So did Mitt Romney's father. Smith's "white horse" prophecy says that the nation and world will be in great disarray. A Mormon will become President and in a time of national crisis, set aside the US Constitution and enact a Mormon theocracy. Beck actually believes this and thinks he is the "Paul Revere" to prepare the way. It explains his endless apocalyptic rhetoric. This cult has the very real goal of establishing the "Kingdom of God," which means advancing the physical and earthly organization of the multi-billion dollar Mormon cult.
I love you and care about you so much. Pray for Beck's salvation. Beck is very clever and wise to run from any Christian who will expose him by challenging what he really believes. This rally in Dallas is about one thing only, promoting Glenn Beck and making millions of dollars by exploiting the ignorant Christian community and furthering his cult! Nothing will be changed by this rally in Dallas since no souls will be saved because this is not about leading souls to faith
in the Jesus Christ of the Bible. Beck tells people to believe in whatever "god" they want to believe in, since the Mormon cult is a polytheistic cult. The FACT IS, there is only ONE GOD..THE GOD OF THE BIBLE!
Glenn Beck and those in this cult can believe whatever they want. God gave us free will, and men who live in rebellion to God since the very beginning have dreamed up the wildest and most ridiculous things, and sadly people who were spiritually void chose to believe their lies and will be lost for all eternity because of it. All I have ever asked is that they be honest and truthful about what they believe. The danger of Mormonism is that they are deceptive (just look at their name, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) and will lie without conscience just like the father of lies, satan (John 8:44), to get people to join their cult, leading their eternal souls to hell. The rally in Dallas is simply Beck's latest scam to make millions off of the Christian community.
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
OceanDream,
I am not very good about explaining very well.
I ment if people keep answering negatively, to me it just eggs him on and ke will keep at it until who knows when.
Maybe if he was ignored, his messages will subside.
Using bad language isn't the answer either! I don't like the bad language, but to each his or her own if it makes those who use it feel better.
Thank you for your post!
So I was wrong on another count also, unless the poster faked it the entity in charge of this information appears to not mind how it gets disseminated. Though its lawyers may see things differently. Always safest to put a link to what you want to share, and preferably your own thoughts, rather than this cut and paste business.
I don't care for the 3rd-party stuff all over myself, be it here or Facebook. But anyway, I'll admit I was apparently wrong on two counts, seeing the entity encourages its information to be spread. I have no knowledge of whether it is human or a corporate conglomerate. Seems an artificial intelligence could have written this with a rather basic spider of a subset of publicly available sources plus a religion profile. I doubt it would pass the Turing Test, however.
I honestly wanted to know why you had the name for your girlfriend. I honestly havn't heard it before, so wanted to know why you called her this?
My question was meant to be a honest question. Maybe it is the term Christians are using now for girls, or a culture thing, or whatever.
I have no issue with you calling her this and if she excepts it good. I do wish to know were it comes from if you know?
I'll tell you what I value: someone who can actually defend the position they're taking if indeed they understand what they're standing behind, assuming, of course, that this guy does, which seems not to be the case at this point, so I'll say no more.
Forereel, my ONLY RESPONSE, which either MIGHT or MIGHT NOT answer your question is: "ONLY GOD, HIMSELF, is capable of answering, which HE MIGHT or MIGHT NOT (not meaning to be repetitious)."
WELL, whether or not I'm supposed to be "EGGED ON," here's ANOTHER message from BROTHER KELLER.
Date: 06/10/11 - 399 days ago.
Category: CULTS
Why Ddo So Many High Profile Christians Give a Platform to Members of Satanic Cults
(2 Corinthians 6:14,15)
Why do so many high profile Christians give a platform to members of satanic cults and false religions? Years ago, I wrote a Devotional about the Unification Church cult, better known as the "Moonies," founder by Sun Myung Moon. The Unification Church cult is a mix of Christianity, Eastern Mysticism, pop psychology, and metaphysics. You can do your own research on their false beliefs, but the key is that just like the Mormon and JW cults, they believe Jesus Christ is just a man and NOT God. Moon proclaims himself to be the "third Adam" and the "true Messiah," being sent by God to complete the unfinished work of Jesus.
Cults and fasle religions have been around since the beginning. In Genesis we read about the Tower of Babel, the first attempt by man to displace the God of the Bible with their own religion. What disgusted me about Moon, is that in the '80s he gained mainstream credibility through buying off the top evangelical leaders of that day by devising scores of special interest organizations that support conservative and Christian causes. These various organizations were used to filter millions of dollars to top Christian leaders like Robert Schuller, Tim LaHaye, Pat Robertson, James Robison, Jerry Falwell, Dr. James Dobson, and Ralph Reed among others
Let me assure you, when someone donates hundreds of thousands, even thousands to your ministry, you know who that person is. Every minsitry needs special donors who can make those kinds of gifts, and you get to know those who can make those types of large gifts. These men clearly knew they were getting in bed with a cult leader, but turned the other way. For a few dollars, they gave this cult leader leading the souls of men to hell with his lies, mainstream credibility!
Sadly, nothing has changed. During Romney's failed bid for the Presidency in 2008, he cleverly used Moon's playbook to find high profile Christians to sell out the faith for whatever financial benefit they would receive. Traitors to the faith such as Jay Sekulow, Mark DeMoss, Bob Jones III, and...Ralph Reed among others. No doubt, Romney will do the same thing during his current run for the Republican nomination in 2012. Be vigilant, and watch what high profile Christians support Romney in the coming weeks and months.
Of course, another high profile member of the satanic Mormon cult Glenn Beck. Beck is also using the "Moon strategy" to gain acceptance and credibility within the Biblical Christian community, since he reaps a large percentage of his millions each year from Christians. High profile Christians have been falling over themselves to get next to Beck. David Barton, James Robison (guess he liked whatever he got from cult leader Moon in the '80s), John Hagee, Jerry Falwell Jr, and....Ralph Reed among others. Guess to these men, the money and exposure they get through Beck's media outlets mean more to them than the innocent souls of men who will follow Beck's Mormon lies and end up in hell for all eternity.
Reed has ZERO shame or conscience. His latest business to make money off of the Christian community using politics is his newly formed "Faith and Freedom Coalition." He held a huge conference in Washington DC last weekend to a mainly Evangelical Christian audience. They were there to listen to the current field of Republican candidates talk about why they are the one people should vote for in the upcoming 2012 election, while interjecting their personal faith. Once again, it was another platform for Romney to boldly proclaim the lie that he is a Christian, when the beliefs of the satanic Mormon cult are totally inconsistent with Biblical Christianity.
Worst of all however, was Reed using Glenn Beck for the keynote address at this high profile gathering. Only God knows how many souls Reed has helped end up in hell with his support of cult members for his own personal monetary gain. It is no wonder why I am lambasted for telling the truth about Romney, Beck, and their satanic cult when well known Christians support and endorse these cult members. It is no wonder why a Biblically illiterate church buys the lie from hell that a Mormon is a Christian, when you have modern day Judas' like Reed selling out the faith to give these satanic cult members a platform to spread their lies.
I love you and care about you so much. We live in a world where the better percentage of two full generations have never even been to church. There are more lost souls on this planet than ever before, especially in the United States. Many who do go to church are now going to "churches" that glorify and condone blatant sin, entertain those who come rather than challenge them to serve the Lord, that deny the inspiration and inerrancy of the Bible, refuse to talk about sin for fear of offending someone, are more about motivational messages on how to be prosperous than holy living, and preach the new age lie from hell that everyone will get to Heaven in their own way.
It makes things even worse when you have high profile Christians who spend their entire lives building their own kingdom rather than God's Kingdom, raising hundreds of millions of dollars so they can fly around in private jets, live in huge mansions, drive exotic luxury cars, and live like the ruler of a small nation. Many sell-out the faith for whatever short-term fame and fortune they can acquire by associating with satanic cult members, giving those cult members mainstream credibility within the Christian community.
The Gospel has been so watered-down, so compromised, sold out by the very men and women God called to lead his people to faith in Jesus and His Truth. Sadly, like some of the priests in the OT, they simply used God for their own benefit, without EEEconsideration of the souls they were influencing to follow the lies of some cult or false religion that will lead them to the eternal flames of hell.
God will ultimately judge these men and women for selling Him out. The Bible even says they will be judged more harshly. My warning for you today is to be vigilant. Open your eyes and pay attention to who these men and women selling out the Lord are. Run from them. Shun them. Tell others about them so they won't be fooled. Jesus warned that in the last days there would be many wolves in sheep's clothing, many deceivers. They are out there in abundance!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Date: 08/15/08 - 1428 days ago.
Category: CULTS
No We Can't - The Cult of B. Hussein Obama
(2 Peter 2:1, Lamentations 2:14, Jeremiah 14:14, Matthew 24:24)
LAST FEBRUARY, LONG BEFORE ANYONE WAS WARNING YOU ABOUT SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, I WROTE THIS POWERFUL DEVOTIONAL. LET IT BE A REMINDER OF WHO THIS MAN REALLY IS!!! ALSO, HERE IS THE VERY POPULAR YOUTUBE VIDEO I PREPARED THAT CALLS INTO QUESTION WHETHER THIS MAN IS REALLY A CHRISTIAN AS HE CLAIMS TO BE. PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE THAT YOU KNOW. http://liveprayer.com/b4.cfm
NO WE CAN'T! The cult of B. Hussein Obama. Remember I told you there would be a revival in this nation this year. Well, before we see a true spiritual revival that will bring millions to faith in Christ and help lead this nation back to God and Biblical values, there is going to be a "faux revival" led by the latest preacher of false hope, B. Hussein Obama. Obama is running for the Democratic Party's nomination to try and become the next President of the United States. He is preaching a gospel of change and hope. Thousands are flocking to his campaign rallies and becoming emotionally charged as this "political evangelist" preaches about hope and change. The problem is he is a false prophet and no true follower of Christ can follow or support this "false messiah of hope and change!"
Very troubling to me has been watching the "revival-like" atmosphere surrounding B. Hussein Obama's campaign for the Presidency. Like all false prophets, it is a false gospel with lots of smoke and mirrors. I think people would be troubled to know that the flowery rhetoric flowing from Obama isn't coming from his heart, but from a 26-year-old white man named Jon Favreau. Favreau is the author of those flowery and dynamic hope and change messages you hear, not B. Hussein Obama. Obama has even had some input from legendary JFK speechwriter Ted Sorensen who is now 79.
Want another interesting fact about B. Hussein Obama. As someone who has done live TV every night for 5 yrs, if you watch Obama, he only gives those stirring hope and change speeches when he has a teleprompter so he can READ HIS LINES! This man is a complete fraud! When he is without a teleprompter, he resorts back to his typical stump speech on the issues. This "false messiah" of hope so many are clinging to, isn't even the author of his message of false hope and is incapable of delivering those passionate speeches without a teleprompter!
Before I get any further into this Devotional today, sadly I have to stop and address something I have already been accused of just by announcing I would be dealing with Obama today. Anyone who has ready my Devotionals knows that I am not in any way shape or form a racist. You need to go to my Devotional archives on the Liveprayer.com website and search for the Devotionals I have written on racism. The fact is, half of the Board of my Ministry are African-American men. Of the 2.4 million subscribers to the Daily Devotional, there are Whites, Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, people of every race in all parts of the world.
In the first 3 years of my ministry when I preached in over 500 churches around the country, I mainly started out preaching in black churches in Chicago where I was based, through doors opened by the men on my Board. One of my dearest friends is the legendary civil rights leader Dr. Clay Evans of Fellowship Baptist Church in Chicago. Dr. Evans has always referred to me as his "white son." He honored me by letting me preach his broadcast service from the "Ship" as it is known on several occasions, one of the only white preachers to have done so.
What I am sharing about Obama today has NOTHING to do with the color of his skin. It has everything to do with his stand on the spiritual issues of our day and the fact he takes stands in complete opposition to the Bible and God! That is why a true follower of Christ can't support B. Hussein Obama. You don't need to look any further than his stand on abortion. Forget his weasel rhetoric. The FACT is, B. Hussein Obama supports a woman's right to kill her baby. Obama supports the legalized slaughter of babies. There is really nothing more a true follower of Christ needs to know about this man. But that is not all. B. Hussein Obama also supports redefining God's Holy Institution of Marriage to include people who choose to engage in deviant sexual acts with others of the same sex. How can a true follower of Christ support a man who wants to change God's definition of this most holy union of marriage?
What is most troubling to me is that B. Hussein Obama claims to be a Christian. Only God knows his heart, but Jesus said, "If you love me, you will obey me," not live in rebellion to me. If B. Hussein Obama is truly a follower of Christ, how can he vote to support the legalized slaughter of babies and the redefining of God's Holy Institution of Marriage? Let me dispel an Internet rumor. Obama is NOT a Muslim. However, he did grow up in Muslim culture. Your life experiences shape who you are, so while not being a Muslim, he is no doubt sympathetic to the issues Muslims face.
Let me be blunt. Islam is a false religion of hate and death, a 1400 year old lie dreamed up by a murdering pedophile named Mohammed. They have a very real goal of destroying this nation and all who live here who refuse to convert to their false religion. While those who seek to make Islam more acceptable and mainstream talk about peace, the fact is, ALL Muslims are guided by the same book of fantasies Mohammed inspired, the Qu'ran. Their book clearly calls for the DEATH of all infidels, and that means all Christians and anyone else who won't convert. They routinely execute Christians in other parts of the world, and would do so here in a heartbeat if they could get away with it. While B. Hussein Obama is NOT a Muslim, due to his life experiences, he is clearly sympathetic to Muslims, the ones who want to see this nation destroyed and all who live here who won't convert to their false religion dead!
B. Hussein Obama is part of this new movement I have warned you about, the Religious Left. In case you have been sleeping, there is a new group of people in our nation who call themselves the "religious left." This is a relatively new term so you may not be familiar with it. That is why I felt it was so critical to take the time today to insure you not only understood what it means, but who actually makes up this new group of people. Forty years ago, this group didn't even exist. They have actually evolved and grown tremendously over the past decade.
The "religious left" is made up of people who identify themselves as Christians and hold strong religious beliefs as well as sharing left-wing ideals. Obviously, this group has risen up in opposition to those who have been tagged the "religious right" or the "Christian right." The "Christian right" is that group of Bible-believing Christians who are politically active and seek to elect to office those candidates who hold to Biblical values on the key spiritual issues of our day that are also political issues.
These would be issues like abortion and life related matters, gay marriage, family issues, the proliferation of the pornography industry, and the drive to remove God from the public square. Those in the "religious left" actually take an anti-Biblical position on these issues and are also heavily involved in the ecumenical movement, environmental issues, opposing war for any reason, world hunger, and social issues like healthcare, welfare, and education.
Interesting that B. Hussein Obama's first bill as a United States Senator was a world hunger relief bill that they are trying to ramrod through as we speak. This would force the United States to pay apx. $900 billion MORE than we already spend on world hunger. While we have to do our best to feed the hungry, I guess Obama never read where Jesus said, "The poor you will have with you always."
There is nothing wrong with pursuing these noble social issues, Believers should be more involved on those fronts. The problem with this group is their anti-Biblical position on the key spiritual issues of our day and their involvement in these ecumenical movements that require you to set aside the Absolute Truths of the Bible. However, they support the legalized slaughter of babies, redefining marriage to include men with men and women with women, perverting the family by brining children into homes with homosexual parents, and embrace ecumenical fellowships with all of the cults and false religions of the world. They deny the inspiration and inerrancy of the Bible, have rejected God's Word for the Absolute Truth it represents, and have bought into the lie of the world that there are "many roads that lead to God." These are the people who make up the "religious left!"
B. Hussein Obama's church was the liberal Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, pastored by the racist Dr. Jeremiah Wright. Wright preaches a message of black separatism and is a racist in every sense of the word. The UCC is one of the most liberal denominations there is. They ordain practicing homosexuals, support slaughtering babies, and preach the social Gospel of the religious left, having abandoned the inspiration of the Word and preaching the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. The queen of the New Age witches, Oprah, also called Trinity UCC her church.
A modern day foe of God, Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State is ordained thru this liberal and ungodly denomination. Lynn has made it his life's work to try and silence and destroy true works of God, and last year came after Liveprayer for my stand on satanic cult member Mitt Romney, by trying to get the IRS to take away our tax-exempt status. His efforts failed because we did nothing wrong. The fact is, Lynn has tried to get the IRS to revoke the tax-exempt status of over 70 churches and ministries over the years, and has failed to be successful even once!
I love you and care about you so much. Revival is currently sweeping the land, however, it is not the spiritual revival that will be coming very soon. This current revival is a political one that has transcended into an emotional charged movement of false hope and promises. The leader of this cult-like movement is B. Hussein Obama. He is no more the next savior of this nation than I am the next great heart surgeon, and I hate blood! I am not even going to talk about his inexperience and the great peril all Americans will be in with this "child" at the helm in today's complex and dangerous world of terror and global economics. I'm not even going to talk about the fact he is the most liberal of the 50 United States Senators and what his Presidency would do to this nation. I am most concerned with people who know the Lord getting caught up in and becoming part of this movement of hype and false hope.
My friend, the only true hope is Jesus. The only true answers are found in the Word of God. God gave us in black and white in the Bible, specifically how to deal with all of the issues in our lives and in this world. More troubling than anything is that Obama won't even speak in specifics, only flowery platitudes. Once you tear away the hype, the smoke and mirrors, all you are left with is empty rhetoric that inspires people and makes them feel good, but leads them nowhere. However, it is empty since it doesn't give them any real direction. Hope is the greatest gift one person can give to another, however, if that hope is in anything else but the Lord and His Word it is false hope.
What we do know about B. Hussein Obama is that he supports the slaughtering of innocent babies and trying to redefine God's Holy Institution of Marriage to include those who choose to engage in deviant forms of sex. Both positions clearly in rebellion to the Lord and to the Bible. Obama, like each follower of Christ has to heed the words of Jesus and decide which master he is going to serve. You can only serve one. I am challenging you today to decide who YOU are going to follow, B. Hussein Obama, the most recent false messiah, or Jesus Christ, the true Messiah!!!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller
I want to take the time to mention that this is one man's oppinion. Certainly he is a man with a large following; but he is a man nevertheless. I'm not even going to get into the number of inaccuracies he's spouting about the LDS church. I do find his lack of source material questionable, and I will post the articles of faith in which we believe. I'm not here to say that my church is the way, and the only way. Nor do I have any intention of saying whoever isn't a Mormon is going to hell. The funny thing about this man is he's so bent on condemning Mormons (and pretty much everyone else with a pulse it seems) that he forgets the very fundimental basis of all Christianity. Those who accept Jesus Christ will be saved, as Christ made an ultimate atonement, giving his life on the cross, and experiencing all of our pain, sickness and emotions in the garden of Gethsemane. The "good works" this man proclaims is our ultimate belief are a bi-product of a Christ-centered life. They are meant not to replace Christ, but to glorify his name. I know the majority of you don't believe in Christianity in any sense, and don't really care whether the LDS church is a satanic cult or not. But I feel I must present counter-points. Regardless of whether our church is right or not, we still believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, that he was born through emaculate conception through the Holy Ghost to a woman named Mary in humble circumstances, that he atoned for our sins in the garden, and died for us on the Cross. We believe he did indeed have a wife, though I don't think we know much, if anything, about her. Marriage is essential for the highest degree of exhaultation; it is through the marriage partnership that we grow in eternal progress. Jesus Christ - Jahova, the Prince of Peace, the everlasting father, the great Alpha and Omega is the god of the Old Testament, and he walked the earth as a mortal in the new, performing all the miracles the Bible says he did. Furthermore, he visited not only the eastern world of the Bible, but the western peoples. He spoke of this in the bible when saying "Many sheep I have who are not of this fold. They too must I visit." Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if other cultures had a visitation from him. Perhaps they remember it differently. (This is my own oppinion right here). He is featured just as much, if not more in the Book of Mormon and Pearl of Great Price than he is in the new testament. And his atonement and coming are prophecied time and time again in the old testament. We believe that faith without works is dead - that is, that nothing we do will be sufficient to elevate us from damnation, but that all will have the oppertunity to accept Jesus. After all, would those people who lived their entire life never having heard of Jesus Christ be condemned to hell? What kind of loving god would do that?
I have been to the temple. I have participated in the ceremonies. They are sacred, not secret. Anyone can participate in them if they truly wish to do so. I can say little about them myself, though I wish I could share more with you. Our ceremonies have been attacked time and time again, and there are some very dark things that are said to go on. They are false. We urge anyone who wishes to know the truth to find out for themselves.
Again, I am not asking you all to believe in my church. But we ARE Christian. We have bad apples just like every other church, culture and belief, but we are absolutely Christian. We do not Worship a man, we worship Jesus Christ. We just explain things a lot more than other churches. I love Jesus CHrist for all he is, and all he has done for me; even if I don't really understand him. Even if I've never seen the heavens part, or heard the voice of God. I am one who asks questions, and so I feel I can tell you all with assurity that our doctrine, though different and elaborate, is Gospel centered, and focused on The holy Ghost, The son, Jesus Christ, and the eternal father, Elohim. They are three distinct beings, yet one in purpose.
I wish to share with anyone interested the articles of Faith of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I do not intend for this to become a battle (I don't have the time or inclanation to inondate all of you with church literature) But I want all those who may be reading this to know that while Pastor Bill undoubtedly believes in the scriptures as he understands and interprets them, he knows very little about the church which he has condemned a Satanic Cult. I ask all of you to judge for yourselves, or not at all whether The LDS are "Christian" by the works we do, and the words of our leaders. They are there for all to read. You might not agree with some of what we teach. We are not "worldly" in that we don't hold the mainstream beliefs that are popular. But I hope you will agree that, if nothing else, we are a church which follows a Christian gospel of peace, love and understanding.
The articles of Faith of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
2 We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
3 We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
4 We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
5 We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
6 We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
7 We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
12 We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
13 We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
Joseph Smith.
Retrieved from the LDS Church's Official Website I urge all of you who are interested - even who are interested in debating my claims to seek after the source of these claims; if not the Bible and the Book of Mormon, then that website, along with Mormon.org Read the words of our leaders; look at the profiles. They are there to show who and what we are ... Or do nothing at all. But please. Please do not buy in to what this man says about us.
I'm sorry. I appear to have provided a broken official website link. This is the real link.
BG, I'll admit you've done one better here by posting the source link. However, I do agree with leo here. You'll probably get a better response if you just post the link, and anyone who is interested can read for themselves. although I don't agree with your religion, I don't believe that you, like the original poster, are trying to troll the boards. Therefore, i believe you deserve an honest, well thought out response.
Um! You mean only God can answer to why you call your soon to be wife Mammy? And if God doesn't choose to answer this question, than I'll not get the answer?
I'm assumiing this is not her parents given name, but a nickname or love term?
Okay, I'll leave that one alone. To heavy for me. Lol
Oh dear, Keller was born in my home state of Ohio. I'm embarrassed now.
ASK BILL: Pastor Bill, recently a friend from church and our ladies bible
study took her life. She was a Christian, but couldn't live with her troubled
past and verbally abusive husband. Is she in heaven?
ANSWER: If she had truly accepted Jesus as her Savior, she forfeited
lilling her purpose as well as God's blessings due to her sin of suicide, but
she is most certianly in Heaven as God promised in His Word. See today's
Devotional on the issue of suicide. <P>
One of the saddest things that I have to deal with every single day is the
tragedy of someone taking their own life. It seems that during this time of
year, the number of suicides increaase. The fact is, right now there are people
reading these words who are actually contemplating killing themselves. If this
is you, or if you have had thoughts of killing yourself, know that it is no
accident you are reading these words today. God is trying to speak to you, so
please, LISTEN TO HIM!
<P>You see my friend, God not only loves you very much, but He is the one who
gave you your life and wants you to live. It is satan who wants you dead! Never
forget that satan has come to what, KILL, steal, and destroy! Satan wants you
dead! The thoughts you have of killing yourself don't come from God, they come
from satan. He is the one telling you that you would be better off dead. He is
the one who is telling you that you should just give up and kill yourself. He is
the one who is telling you that the best answer to your problems is to take your
life. He is the one who is telling you that everyone else will be better off if
you were dead. He is the one who is telling you that your life is meaningless
and it is not worth living any longer.
SATAN IS A LIAR! In John 8:44, Jesus tells us that he is the "father of
lies," that when he speaks, he "speaks his native language," LYING! The thoughts
you have of killing yourself are coming directly from the pits of hell, from the
very lips of that liar satan!
God on the other hand wants you to LIVE! God is Truth! It is God who is
telling you to live. It is God who loved you so much He sent His very Son to die
for your sins. It is God who is telling you to cast your cares on Him and let
Him see you through those difficult times. It is God who says you are not alone,
that He will never leave you nor forsake you. It is God who is telling you that
your life has meaning and purpose. It is God who is telling you that He has
given you life and life abundantly. It is God who is telling you to trust Him
and LIVE!
So what this really boils down to is who do you listen to, satan, who is a
liar, or God, who speaks Truth? Seriously, if you are having thoughts of killing
yourself or if you have ever had thoughts of killing yourself, you have got to
understand where those thoughts are coming from and ultimately make the choice
who you are going to listen to. If you are having thoughts of killing yourself
today, or if you have ever had those thoughts, make sure you take a moment to
ask yourself the critical question of who you are going to listen to, satan, a
liar who wants you dead, or God, who represents Truth and wants you to live.
Now let me answer one of the most asked questions I get each day. Killing
yourself does NOT keep you from Heaven, the only thing that keeps you from
Heaven is rejecting Christ as your Savior. *THIS DOES NOT MEAN IT IS OK TO KILL
YOURSELF OR A PASS TO COMMIT SUICIDE!!! Make no mistake, killing yourself IS a
sin. To even think of suicide is rebelling against God. However, the ONLY sin
that will send you to hell is rejecting Christ. If you have truly accepted by
faith Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and you commit suicide, you will
spend eternity with God your Creator.
<P>The reason suicide is a sin is because it is God who gives us life for the
purpose of serving and glorifying Him, and it is ONLY God who can say when our
work here on earth is finished. Remember, if you accept Him into your heart it
is NOT your life any longer, it belongs to Him. That means it is NOT your right
to end your life. That right only belongs to God. Suicide is an act of rebellion
towards God!.
I know there are some people who erroneously believe that if you kill
yourself you can't go to Heaven since you died without repenting of that sin.
According to that erroneous theology, if you commit a sin, have a massive heart
attack and die instantly without confessing that sin you committed prior to
dying you would be lost for all eternity. Sorry, but that is simply not what the
Bible teaches.
Some may ask, what are the consequences of the sin of suicide since it ends
your life? One of the consequences of all sin is it keeps us from enjoying our
relationship with the Lord. Sin keeps us from being all God wants us to be. Sin
keeps us from knowing the joy, the peace, the abundance the Lord promised to us
in this life. Those who commit suicide have already allowed the enemy to blind
them to God's love, otherwise, they would never make such a horrible choice.
Someone who commits this act misses the fulfillment of God's perfect plan for
their life. It is a very sad way to end this wonderful journey, and a way God
never intended!
Suicide is really nothing more than an act of cowardice and is one of the
most selfish things anyone can ever do. Despite all the reasons that satan the
liar gives you to kill yourself, it really boils down to the fact that only a
coward chooses this course of action. Rather than deal with the problems of
life, fight through them, work towards victory in the power God can give you,
you chose instead to simply stop living altogether. That my friend is a coward's
answer to their problems.
Suicide is also one of the most selfish acts a person can commit. One of the
great lies satan feeds a person thinking about killing themselves is that their
family and friends would be better off if they were dead. The truth is, a person
who kills themself leaves behind family and friends, who in many cases, spend
the rest of their life carrying around unnecessary guilt over what role they may
have played in causing the person to kill themselves. I deal daily with family
members and friends of a person who has committed suicide and they experience
tremendous guilt over what they may have done to force their loved one or friend
into taking their life.
To you family members and friends of someone who has committed suicide, YOU
ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY CHOSE TO DO! They, not you, made this sad and
tragic choice. So please, don't put yourself under the unnecessary burden of
carrying around guilt from something you didn't cause and didn't do.
<P>Let me speak directly to anyone who may be contemplating suicide this very
moment. It is God who gives us this precious gift we call life. Dealing daily
with some of the most incredible human situations you can ever imagine, I
understand the pain, the difficulty, the hopelessness so many live with each
day. It is always at the lowest points in our life when the enemy attacks us.
Like with everything, there are always scenarios, always circumstances we can
point to, but sin is sin, and no amount of justification changes that. THERE IS
ALWAYS AN ANSWER OTHER THAN SIN!!!!
I love you, and I care about you more than you will ever know. The pain I
feel daily as I walk with you in your time of need is sometimes overwhelming.
But I keep the truth and promise of God's Word in my heart, and the hope and
love we have in Christ in my every thought. I will be praying today for you,
that you will never even consider suicide as an option. IT IS NOT AN OPTION
BECAUSE YOUR LIFE BELONGS TO GOD. Only God can say when it is over.
Instead of focusing on the lies of the enemy, on the pain and the
circumstances in your life, look instead to the
Truth we find in God's Word, the promises and hope we have in Christ and the fact God will ALWAYS give us a path of escape. God has a wonderful and perfect plan for your life. The key is you have to be alive for that plan to unfold. Don't ever take this wonderful gift of life for granted, because it will be over soon enough. In the meantime, we need to be focused on what it is God wants from our life, what it is God wants us to accomplish each day for Him.
Let me leave with you two powerful truths from God's Word. The first is, He loves you so very much. The second is, He is a God of answers. Embrace His love for you today, and let Him help you find the answers to those questions you have. There is only one option if you know Christ as your savior and that is to LIVE for Him.
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Date: 07/16/08 - 1460 days ago.
Category: CULTS
Without Jesus You Have Nothing
(Luke 14:23; Titus 1:16; Galatians 6:1-12)
You can have it all by the standards of this world, but without Jesus, you have NOTHING! The world mourned the loss of a great actor 6 months ago, Heath Ledger. At just 28 years old and with an already impressive list of acting credits on his resume including an Oscar nomination, Ledger was a major star in the movie industry. Like many of the stars in the entertainment industry, he was also very troubled. His battle with heroin led to the break-up last September with actress-girlfriend Michelle Williams who is the mother of their 2-year-old daughter. Reports are that he battled with depression and insomnia. It really makes you at least wonder how much affect playing some of the dark roles he did, the gay cowboy in "Brokeback Mountain," a heroin addict in the movie, "Candy," and his latest role as the dark and macabre Joker in the newest "Batman" movie to be released this month, had on his real life.
Sadly, there is no hint of any faith in Ledger's life. He recently spoke of death in an interview, dealing with the subject from the typical perspective of someone who sees death as simply the end of life. Like so many in the entertainment field, their faith is in themselves and in this fleeting life that ends sooner than anyone expects it to. The cold hard reality of this life is that it will end one day for each of us. Usually before we are ready for it to end. At that moment, in that instant, we will immediately be standing before God our Creator. God is not going to be interested that we were a successful Hollywood actor or whatever our profession may have been. The only thing God will be interested in is do we have a personal relationship with Jesus by faith, nothing else.
Please take a moment today and pray for Heath Ledger's family, friends, and many fans. I pray that his untimely death will be a reminder to all of how brief this life really is. I pray that those who mourn his loss will find the comfort and strength of Christ and that they will turn their lives to Him. If you have not accepted Christ into your heart and life yet, the Bible says that today is the day of salvation. I would invite you to go to my website, and click on the button that says PLAN OF SALVATION. Read those words, pray that prayer, and accept today God's gift to you, the gift of His son Jesus.
Knowing that there is the better percentage of two full generations living today that don't go to church, were not raised in a Christian home, and have no spiritual foundation to their lives, I am motivated daily to bring these people the Truth of God's Word and the hope and love of Christ before they fall into the hands of the many cults and false religions that exist today. Let me help you understand something. When man sinned and his relationship with God was broken, there became a void in man that only God can fill. Deep down, sinful man knows something is missing in his life, something that the things of this world can't fill, and he begins a search to fill that void.
Everyone who lives has to deal with the trials, the pain, the challenges of living in this sinful and fallen world. Those who have no spiritual foundation to their life will spend their teen and young adult years trying to fill that spiritual void with the things this world promotes such as alcohol, drugs, relationships, sex, money, career, material possessions, and all the other temporal things of this life. It is usually when a person hits their 30s that they realize that the things this world offers simply do not fill that void they have in their life. That is why during their 30s and 40s so many people begin to explore the spiritual side of their life.
Those of us who know Jesus Christ as our Savior, who know the Truth of God's Word, have the ONLY answer these people are looking for. That void in their life is there due to their broken relationship with God their Creator and can only be filled by being reconnected to God their Creator thru faith in His Son Jesus Christ. What upsets me more than anything else is to watch the cults and false religions of the world boldly and aggressively market themselves to the lost and hurting in this world as the answer they are looking for. They don't do this by creating their own subculture and hoping people will come to them, they actively go out and pursue people, using the resources of this world to reach them with their lies and false hope.
Let me be blunt. While we have become content with building beautiful buildings with all the modern conveniences and technologies of the world for our people to enjoy, while we have set up our own TV, radio, music, and publishing empires to preach to ourselves, the cults of the world like the Mormons, the Jehovah's Witnesses, Kaballah, Scientology, Moon's Unification Church, the false religions of the world like Islam, Buddhism, B'hai, Hindu, and the many New Age philosophies, are reaching out to the lost and hurting in this world through secular TV, radio, music, advertising, and publishing vehicles that reach the world's masses each day.
We have forgotten that Jesus told us to, "Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled." (Luke 14:23 KJV) At some point it became too much work to go out and reach people and much more financially profitable to simply preach to the choir. So we abandoned the world, retreated to the subculture we created for ourselves to enjoy, and in the process have left the souls of men to the scavengers of satan who are having a field day leading the lost into eternal damnation, while we sit in our $20 million buildings singing about going to Heaven.
SHAME ON US, AND GOD WILL JUDGE US!
One of the fastest growing cults today is Scientology. As I have shared with you in the past, cults and false religions are nothing new to the time we are living in. Man has been trying to find ways to fill that void created by his broken relationship with God since the very beginning. You don't go too many chapters into the Book of Genesis until you come to the story of the Tower of Babel. That story is literally about men who decided to create their own religion. The cults and false religions of this world are all traced back to the hearts and minds of men who lived in rebellion to God.
The Mormon cult came from the imagination of that pedophile murderer Joe Smith, another pedophile murderer Mohamed dreamed up what we know of today as Islam, Mary Baker Eddy created the Christian Science cult out of her blackened heart, and Charles Taze Russell created the Jehovah's Witness cult. Every cult and false religion can be traced back to a man who lived his life in rebellion to God and created the cult or false religion out of his imagination. The Truth, the Christian faith actually started in the Garden of Eden and comes directly from God Himself, the very God who created the heavens and earth and made man in His own image.
I am always amused at people who reject the story of Christ and God's simple plan to redeem fallen man, yet buy into the wild theology of cults like Mormonism and Scientology. Christianity requires that you use your God-given intelligence to make the choice to accept Christ as your Savior based on reality. Cults like Mormonism and Scientology require that you abandoned all intelligence and blindly believe wild stories based on no facts. I have to be honest with you, I will never have enough faith to believe the fantasies of Mormonism or Scientology, but many who are hurting and lost and looking to fill that spiritual void in their life, will.
I love you and care about you so much. I pray that you will not neglect the commandment we have from our Lord to share the hope and love of Christ and the Truth of His Word with those you meet along your journey. The Lord didn't sit in a church and wait for people to
Him, HE WENT TO THEM! Christ is our example and we need to not only follow His example but His words to, "Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled." (Luke 14:23 KJV)
This is not complicated. We have the better percentage of two full generations of people out there who have never been to church. They are living their lives void of Christ and His Truth. We know they have a spiritual void that at some point they will try to fill. That is why now more than ever we need to be bold and aggressive in letting people know that there is only ONE TRUTH in this world, there is only ONE ANSWER for their problems, and there is only ONE WAY to fill that void in their life...FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST!
God's desire is that none be lost, that all come to repentance. May that become our desire as well. Those who follow cults like Mormonism and Scientology are on a conveyor belt to hell. Let us bring them the Truth of God's Word and the hope and love of Christ, so that they can get off before it is too late and get on the conveyor belt to HEAVEN!!!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller
In case I've already posted the below message, I appologize for the REPITITION, although AT TIMES, reviewing MIGHT be helpful, either to whatever DEGREE, or ALL THE WAY and BEYOND.
Date: 06/19/08 - 1487 days ago.
Category: CULTS
Romney's Big Speech (LIE)
(Galatians 1:9)
***LAST MAY, I was the first national Christian leader to speak out against Mitt Romney due to the fact he was part of the satanic Mormon cult, though like all Mormons, he tried to pass himself off as a Christian. Even worse than standing alone on this issue, was the fact many key evangelical leaders turned Judas and sold out Christ to back this cult member's bid for the White House. Millions of souls were potentially saved from going to hell when Romney withdrew, however, he is now being pushed in many circles to be Sen. John McCain's Vice President. What a great election if that occurs. Senator John McCain, who will never champion the spiritual issues that plague this nation with a running mate who is part of a satanic cult on one side, and a man who is selling himself as a Christian yet has beliefs and positions totally inconsistent with that of a Christian on the other. So I wanted to take you back to last December, and a Devotional I wrote 48 hours BEFORE Mitt Romney gave his big "faith speech" (LIE). In light of the possibility of him being named as Sen. McCain's running mate, I think it is important to remind you of exactly who Mitt Romney is.
Romney's big speech (LIE). This morning, Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney will give his much anticipated speech regarding his Mormon faith, much like the "faith speech" John Kennedy gave in 1960 during his bid for the Presidency over the concern people had with him being a Roman Catholic. I am writing this 48 hours BEFORE Romney gives his speech and I can assure you that the Romney campaign has not given me of all people an advanced copy of the speech he'll deliver, nor do I need any prophetic gift to share with you what the former Massachusetts Governor is going to say Thursday morning.
Let me say right up front that even though I was the first high profile Christian to publicly speak out against Romney's candidacy due to the fact he is part of a satanic cult, my motives have nothing to do with politics but with the eternal souls of men. I have been consistent from the moment I spoke out against Romney that this was not about his politics but the fact he is an active and loyal member of a satanic cult that is leading the souls of men to hell. All I have ever asked the former Governor of Massachusetts to do is to be HONEST about what "his faith" as he calls it really believes, and to stop lying to the people that he is a Christian.
Any layman with zero theological training can quickly understand that the god and jesus of Mormon theology are NOT the God and Jesus of the Bible, and that the final theological authority of the Mormon cult, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants, are totally inconsistent with what the Bible teaches. Mormonism and Christianity are NOT the same or even similar, but two competing beliefs. I could care less if Mitt Romney wears magical underwear 24/7, denies the deity of Christ and thinks he is the spirit brother of Lucifer, and believes he will die and become the god of his own planet with many women waiting to have sex with him to create an endless supply of spirit babies.
ALL I HAVE EVER ASKED IS THAT HE IS HONEST ABOUT WHAT HE BELIEVES AND TO QUIT TRYING AND DECEIVE PEOPLE INTO THINKING THAT HE IS A CHRISTIAN, SINCE BASED ON THE BELIEFS OF THE MORMON CULT, A MORMON IS NO MORE A CHRISTIAN THAN A MUSLIM IS!!!
I can assure you 100% that his speech Thursday will be nothing but a BIG LIE! He can't help it. That is what Mormon's have done since Joey Smith founded this cult nearly 200 years ago. Let's look at where he is giving this speech. He will deliver this speech in College Station, Texas from the library of former President Bush (41) who will also introduce him. If Mitt Romney was going to give an honest speech on what his cult believes, he would be delivering this speech from the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City, Utah!!!
I can also assure you that Romney will not be alone at this speech. There is no doubt that prominently displayed will be his wife Ann and their five sons. DO NOT BE FOOLED! This man is a master of deception and he is banking on the Biblical and theological illiteracy of the masses, along with the powerful visual of he, his wife of 39 years, and their 5 great looking sons as a snapshot of what the All-American CHRISTIAN family looks like.
I can assure you Romney will NOT talk about the specific beliefs of the Mormon cult. He can't, since again, it will become apparent immediately to anyone listening that the beliefs of the Mormon cult are totally inconsistent with Biblical Christianity. But don't worry, you will hear him talk about his belief in God and his faith in Jesus Christ and that he reads the Bible. Don't be deceived!!! The god of Mormon theology is NOT the God of the Bible. The jesus of Mormon theology is NOT the Jesus of the Bible. The Bible is believed by Mormons to be flawed, apostate, not complete, and is not Truth or their final theological authority!
I can assure you the bulk of his speech will focus on how important his faith is to him and his family, how it guides him in every aspect of his life ( though I wonder why he used to support the slaughter of innocent babies other than it was politically expedient), family values, and he will then proceed to try and bully and intimidate people like myself into silence by calling those who try to hold him accountable a bigot, intolerant, and un-American. I have told you before that those who have bought into the lies of satan will always try to silence people who have the guts to confront them and their lies publicly. Romney will attempt to do this by playing into the politically correct mindset most people have adopted by reinforcing that in this country we have the freedom to worship and anyone who demeans people based on their religious beliefs are the real villains.
Nice attempt to change the issue since nobody, especially me, is trying to stop Mitt Romney from believing whatever he wants or worshipping however he chooses. All I am asking him to do is simply stop lying to people and be HONEST about what his beliefs are and stop trying to deceive people into thinking he is a Christian, when his beliefs are not based on the Bible but the ramblings of his cult's founder Joey Smith. Please don't forget, Romney is not some passive, pew-sitting Mormon. He is a Temple Mormon. He was a bishop in that cult, and his family has a long history of active leadership.
He will be taking advantage of the fact that the largest percentage of the last two generations have never been to church, that even most Christians have been under such poor and compromised teaching that they don't know the difference between a Christian and Mormon, and you will hear him cry out for "tolerance for others' beliefs" over and over. This is not about tolerating Romney's beliefs, it is about him being honest about what he believes.
What sickens me most is that fact that I am 100% certain he has received input from many Christians who are supporting his candidacy. I have already listed the more prominent Christians who have sold out Christ and decided short term political power is more important than the souls of men. People like Jay Sekulow, Mark DeMoss, Ralph Reed, Bob Jones III, Paul Weyrich, are just a few high profile Christians who are supporting Romney. Instead of helping to lead this man to a place where he denounces the Mormon cult and truly make a profession of faith in the true Jesus we find in the Bible, they are willing participants in Romney's bid to deceive people Thursday into thinking he is a Christian. They will die one day and stand before God and have to
answer for being a modern day Judas.
I love you and care about you so much. Mitt Romney went into this campaign with a very clever strategy of courting the evangelical Christian vote that put our current President in the White House for 2 terms. He bought and paid for a few high profile Christian leaders to give credibility to the lie that he is a Christian and deliver that vote. It has been the relentless efforts of a few people like myself and many faithful pastors around the country who have tried to educate people that a Mormon is NOT a Christian, but the member of a satanic cult leading the souls of men to hell with their false theology.
In the past few months we have seen the incredible rise of former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee. Huckabee, a former Baptist preacher really is a Christian. It seems many Christians across the country are starting to rally behind Huckabee and Romney is slipping in the polls, seeing his ace-in-the-hole, the Christian vote, moving towards Huckabee. Trust me, this speech Thursday is one Romney was hoping to NEVER have to give. As I type these words today, I believe that this speech will be the end of Romney's bid for the White House in '08, even though he has the financial resources to stay in the race right up to the nomination next summer.
Many are comparing this speech to the speech then Democratic Presidential nominee John Kennedy gave in 1960 regarding the fact he was a Roman Catholic. While there had never been a Roman Catholic President prior to Kennedy, despite the many unbiblical man-made traditions of the RC Church, they still believe in the Bible alone and only faith in Jesus Christ can save your soul. Kennedy wasn't part of a satanic cult founded by a con artist 200 years ago who supposedly had an angel lead him to gold tablets in the Catskills. Smith dreamed up this new religion that was immediately rejected by the true church of his day as a heretical cult. His cult has strived for mainstream acceptance during its nearly 200 year history and has never hesitated to lie about what they really believed in order to pass themselves off as simply "another Christian church." This speech is not analogous to the Kennedy speech in any way.
What is going to be Romney's ultimate downfall will be the backlash from those within his cult. They are already terribly upset with him for not being more bold about their cults' beliefs. In trying to court the Christian vote, Romney has repeatedly lied without conscience about what Mormons really believe, much to the chagrin of most Mormons who saw Romney as the man who would fulfill Smith's ultimate vision of turning this country into a Mormon theocracy. If Romney would be elected President, his advisors would not be his cabinet in Washington DC, but the elders of his cult in Salt Lake City! One post on the blog Mormon Mentality condemned Romney for being "evasive," while another complained, "If he were so proud to be a Mormon, he should tell the truth." I agree!
So get ready Thursday for this very carefully thought out and choreographed speech (LIE). The bottom line is you will NOT hear about what Romney's "faith," the Mormon cult really believes, though you will hear how important his "faith" is to him and his family. You will hear him use the name of God and Jesus and Bible over and over, but don't be fooled because he is NOT talking about the God of the Bible, the Jesus of the Bible, and won't tell you he really believes the Bible to be a flawed and inferior book. Ultimately, it will be Romney's last attempt to silence people like myself by calling us bigots, intolerant, and other names, while he parades his wife and children before the cameras and tries to pass he and his family off as "just another Christian family."
Any true member of the Mormon cult should be outraged by Romney's speech Thursday since it will be obvious he is ashamed to tell the American people what his church really believes. Likewise, all Christians should be outraged that the member of a satanic cult will have the audacity to stand before the American people and lie without conscience as he tries to pass himself off as a Christian. All any Mormon or Christian really wants is for Mitt Romney to simply tell the truth about what his beliefs are. Since I know he won't, I have for you.
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller
Date: 05/20/08 - 1517 days ago.
Category: CULTS
Difference between Roles Women of Christ Follow Vs Women of Islam and Mormonism
(Genesis 1:27; Galatians 3:28)
The difference between the roles of women who follow Christ, versus women who follow the Mormon cult or the false religion of Islam. I have to laugh when I hear people who are clearly Biblically illiterate state the Bible demeans women, that God's Word teaches women are inferior to men, or that Paul was a male chauvinist. Paul was a revolutionary in his day, teaching God's Word that men and women were equal when in his culture women were little more than property. People who make such statements are 100% wrong about what the Bible teaches regarding women and their roles. Let me say right up front that according to God's Word a man and a woman are 100% equal, they simply have different roles to play.
In God's account of creation found in the first chapter of Genesis, the Bible states, "And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." Paul, in writing to the church at Galatia states, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." The Bible CLEARLY and without any question teaches that God created men and women as equals. The only difference is in the specific roles each has been assigned.
This is NOT SO in many cults and false religions, specifically in the Mormon cult and the false religion of Islam. I guess if a person was operating in the flesh, it is understandable why a man would buy into the lies of Joey Smith and his Mormon cult, or the false religion of Islam dreamed up by Mohammed 1400 years ago. Both of these satanically inspired "religions" that have lead millions of souls to hell, with literally over a billion more alive today who are on that conveyor belt to eternal punishment for believing their lies, are designed for and geared towards men. Women are less than men in every way in both the Mormon cult and the false religion of Islam.
Again, I guess I see why some men would be attracted to these false beliefs. After all, it sounds nice that you die and become the god of your own planet with an unlimited number of women waiting to have sex with you to create "spirit babies" as the Mormon cult teaches, or that a Muslim man can die and go to "paradise" where some ridiculous number of virgins are waiting to have sex with him. The Bible actually teaches that there will be no marriage in Heaven, no physical bodies which of course means no sex. Again, satan the father of lies has perverted God's wonderful gift of sex designed for a husband and wife in this life and used it as a motivation for men to follow a false faith that will lead their souls to hell.
Note: I can only imagine the sheer horror of those who followed the lies of Smith, when upon their death they realized as they stood before God their Creator that they were not and never would be a "god," and instead of a planet full of women there were the eternal flames and torment of hell. No doubt, those who followed the lies of Mohammed also had to be shocked when they died and instead of virgins waiting to have sex with them, was satan welcoming them to a place of eternal punishment.
Something I have never been able to understand is why a woman would want anything to do with either the Mormon cult or the false religion of Islam. In both of these false beliefs women are unequal to men and really little more than the property of men, no different than a slave. The Mormon position on women has changed little since the early 1800's, when the official view was that "woman's primary place is in the home, where she is to rear children and abide by the righteous counsel of her husband" (McConkie 844). This attitude, coupled with the doctrine of polygamy and the absolute power claimed by the men of the church, created a legacy of profound sexism which modern Mormonism continues to foster..
Mormonism has created an ingenious system of oppression, in which opposition towards men is tantamount to arguing with God. At age twelve, boys become members of the Aaronic, or lesser priesthood, and at nineteen become eligible for the Melchezedek, or higher priesthood. Members of either priesthood are higher authorities on everything than are non-members. Women are, of course, excluded from the priesthood. This practice in effect says that a woman's prepubescent son is more qualified to advise her than she is to advise him.
The most notorious example of Mormon treatment of women is, of course, the practice of polygamy. Polygamous marriage is basically essential to Mormon theology. Mormon Doctrine states that God was once a human man, and "He is now a glorified, resurrected Personage having a tangible body of flesh and bones" (250). As a matter of fact, "all gods first existed as spirits, came to an earth to receive bodies, and then, after having passed through a period of probation on the aforesaid earth, were advanced to the exalted position they now enjoy" (Hoekema 38). After death, a good Mormon man who has followed a few certain rules is catapulted to this same status and receives his own planet to populate and rule over (Fife 103). To receive this honor, a man must be "married for eternity" in the Mormon temple. This special marriage is binding after death as well as until it.
"Celestial" marriage, as this eternal marriage is often called, is essential for Mormon women. Without being celestially married to a holder of the priesthood, a woman cannot be "saved" (Green 154). In the temple marriage ceremony, women are given secret names known only to their husbands, for identification purposes, so their husbands can pull them through to "the other side" after death. After death, while their husbands are creating and ruling over planets, the women have the questionable honor of bearing his "spirit children" for eternity. Because of the doctrine of celestial marriage, it is very difficult for Mormon women to obtain divorces in the church. Women are told that "divorce is usually the result of one or both not living the gospel", and that a woman who wants a divorce is "untrue to the covenants she has made in the house of the Lord" A Mormon woman has the joy of looking forward to an eternity of being pregnant!
As for women who are part of the false religion of Islam, they are really little more than slaves and the "property of their husband." In Islam, woman are not equal to men in any way. The Qur'an says that the testimony of a woman is not equal to that of a man. It says that the testimony of two women is required to be equal to the testimony of one man. Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men cannot be found, then one man and two women whom you judge fit to act as witnesses. (Qur'an 2:282 Dawood) Interestingly, Islam teaches the vast majority of those in hell are women. Ibn Abbas reported that Allah's Messenger said: I had a chance to look into paradise and I found that majority of the people was poor and I looked into the Fire and there I found the majority constituted by women. (Muslim, vol. 4, hadith 6597, p. 1432).
In the false religion of Islam, beating women is not only common, but something their "holy book" encourages. "And those (wives) you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them." (Qur'an 4:34, Arberry) Many hadiths encourage wife beating. Umar reported the Prophet as saying, "A man will not be asked about why he beat his wife." (Mishkat Al-Masabih, p. 693: Abu Dawud and Ibn Majah) Mohammed was also recorded to have beat his wives.
Of course, a woman's chief responsibility is to satisfy her husband sexually. Mohammad gave strong warnings to women who would not accommodate their husbands/masters desire. Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (p.) said, "if a man invites his wife to sleep with him an she
refuses to come to him, then angels send their curses on her till morning." (Bukhari, vol. 7, hadith 121, p. 93) For the Muslim man, upon his death he believes there will be many virgins waiting for him. "Surely for the godfearing awaits a place of security, gardens and vineyards and maidens with swelling breasts, like of age, and a cup overflowing." (Qur'an 78:31-33, Arberry) In the world of Islam, women have no legal standing, and are little more than a man's punching bag and sex object.
I love you and care about you so much Why a woman would want to be part of the Mormon cult or the false religion of Islam is beyond me. They are believed to be inferior to men and little more than slaves who exist for the benefit of men. I have no clue why any woman would want to be part of these lies from the pits of hell, especially when you know the TRUTH about women as God tell us in His Word. All throughout the Bible, women have played an incredible role in the plan of God. We see women being used by God in incredible ways, helping to fulfill His Divine plan. Women have always played a key role in God's work, and I want to make sure we never lose sight of how important they are in the Kingdom of God.
THE LIE OF SATAN THROUGH THE TEACHINGS OF CULTS LIKE MORMONISM AND THE FALSE RELIGION OF ISLAM IS THAT WOMEN ARE INFERIOR TO MEN. THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD TEACHES THAT MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUAL!!!
I want to encourage women who are following the lies of Mormonism and Islam that you are NOT inferior to a man. God made you EQUAL with men. He loves you, has a special plan and purpose for your life, and wants the best for you. The fact is a large percentage of women in Mormonism and Islam did not choose these beliefs or make a conscience decision to commit their lives to them, they were born or married into them. You cannot be born or married into Christianity. It is a choice, a decision you have to make to give your heart and life to Jesus. He loves you and wants to have an everlasting relationship with you. You don't need your parents or a man or anyone else to know Jesus as your personal Savior. It is a relationship you enter into by faith.
The fact is that all of us, men and women, are born with the sin of Adam in addition to those sins we commit during our life. It is our sin that separates us from God our Creator. But God loved us so much, He sent Jesus to die for our sins. That is why it is faith in Jesus alone, not Mohammed, not the false jesus of Joey Smith, but the Jesus of the Bible who is GOD that will save your soul. It is not too late. You can turn from the lies of Mormonism or Islam today and ask Jesus into your heart and life by faith and He will. Take a moment, pray, and ask God to open your heart and watch this video clip: http://www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.cfm
THE LIE OF SATAN THROUGH THE TEACHINGS OF CULTS LIKE MORMONISM AND THE FALSE RELIGION OF ISLAM IS THAT WOMEN ARE INFERIOR TO MEN. THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD TEACHES THAT MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUAL!!!
*A special thank you to Jessica Longaker, for her wonderful article, "The Role of Women in Mormonism" that helped me with some of the content on Mormon women.
I'd love to debate you on much of the last post, but you'll just tell me something about it being God's way.
There are just so many points, like a former Baptist preacher really is a Christian, if she had accepted Jesus as her personal savior she'd not have committed suicide, and about this preachers Blatant hate of any religion he is not.
Do you actually read all, and do you actually sit and think about it along with reading your Bible, provided it is not one that has been changed?
Do you think on your life experiences and think about this preachers teachings, or do you just accept all his states without question? blant
This man spouts just enough honey tinged poison to be compelling. I wouldn't go so far as to call him satanic by any means, but he mixes just enough truth in with his lies about other religions (and his own) that it becomes difficult to tell the difference. He thinks he has all the answers. That's fine. But he delivers those answers by attacking other faiths in ways that lead me, as one of those faiths to wonder how much research he's actually done, and more importantly, where he got it from. I could spend all day picking apart his inaccuracies with regards to the LDS Church, but the information about what we believe is very easily accessible and straight forward for anyone who cared to look at it. I have no idea what sort of sources he sited "green" and the like, but I question him, his intentions and his virtue as a missionary of Jesus Christ. He doesn't so much preach the love and understanding that Jesus commanded, but rather condemns other religions for their unvirtuous ways. Sadly, in the case of the LDS church, all he does is put his own spin on our beliefs. Knew he as much about the LDS church as he claims, he would know that Jesus Christ is central, and that the ceremonies performed in our temples are sacred to us. He speaks some truthes, but he fails to understand their reasoning. Partial truths do not the full picture make. Mr. Perhaps Keller would better serve the lord by teaching about Jesus Christ, and not Bill Keller's philosophy on why every other religion in the world but his single branch of Christianity is bound for hell. Contending points of doctrine serves little purpose. I would also urge Mr. Keller to look up the word Cult in the dictionary before he starts throwing it around. I'll say this. Had I not already been a Christian, this man would give me a multitude of reasons to stear well clear. If, by their works shall Christians be known, then this man does not embody the teachings he claims to follow. This wouldn't bother me so much if he weren't himself doing the very things he accuses other religions of doing.
This man and others is exactly why I am not a Christian. I stopped using that term for myself years ago for this reason.
My point exactly.
I really only had one thing to say, but I'll say a few.
1. - Awesome title, that being said – I am going to steal it, and probably use it to write some book you totally hate, but I don’t care, so thank you! :)
2. - I value both opinions and truth. In most cases, and I did say MOST – not ALL, a person’s opinion is considered their TRUTH. Therefore, each and every person that gives their honest opinion is giving the truth as they see it. And, yes - I realize this is your apparent truth, however absurd it may be logically.
3. - Extremely Religious People annoy me. Let’s narrow that down a bit, I have absolutely no issue with talking about God, or any other Superior Being you wish to discuss. I, however, do not wish to be preached to, learn exactly what having a religion shoved down my throat feels like, or end up cursing you to the ‘Fire-y Pits of Hell.”
Which reminds me, I didn’t actually read the first post entirely or any by your posts really, as I don’t really care for what they appear to be about. I understand you care greatly for your faith, but must you really make a fool of yourself?
That being said I do realize no one actually forced me to read or post my OPINIONS here – I did it on my own.
***ASK BILL: Pastor Bill, once saved always saved, or can one lose their salvation?
ANSWER: http://liveprayer.com/ddarchive3.cfm?id=4817
Bibles are being replaced with the erotic best seller I spoke of a few weeks ago, "The Fifty Shades of Grey." The next time you take your family on vacation and check in to a hotel, ANY HOTEL, make your children stay in the lobby while you inspect the room. When you get to the room, start with the television. Virtually every hotel now carries hardcore, triple x movies that can be accessed in a few seconds with the remote control. Take 2-3 minutes and block those channels so your children can't access them. Next, go through all the drawers in the room. Sadly, in many casess you won't find a Bible, but could find a sex kit, the damnable Book of Mormon, or even the x-rated book, "The Fifty Shades of Grey!"
More and more hotels are no longer supplying Bibles in their guest rooms. Many hotels are removing the Bibles because some guests complain other religion books are not also available. One trendy Manhattan hotel doesn't put Bibles in their rooms because "society evolves," said a hotel spokeswoman. She said that providing Bibles would mean the hotel "would have to take care of every guest's belief." According to the American Hotel and Lodging Association, the number of luxury hotels with religious materials in the rooms has dropped by 18 percent.
However, what is replacing the Bible in one hotel in England is "Fifty Shades of Grey" (please don't think this will be the only one), and in many hotels in the US and around the world are "intimacy kits" with items like condoms. The Indigo hotel in Scottsdale, Ariz., a "branded boutique" launched by InterContinental, has no Bibles, but it does offer a "One Night Stand" package for guests seeking VIP treatment at local nightclubs and late checkout for the hazy morning after.
Sofitel's brand, for example, is taking "a new direction," says Daniel Entenberg, the "romance concierge" at the chain's flagship Los Angeles location. He was brought in two years ago in an effort to reposition the entire company's image. With business travel down and leisure travel up, the hotel industry is now catering to a "less religious" younger clientele who are out for a good time, and certainly don't want to open up a drawer on the nightstand have be confronted with God's Word!
I know many people will think that this is no big deal, if people are really into God's Word they should bring their own Bible, and that this is much ado about nothing. I disagree. I think this is a VERY big deal from this perspective. It is simply more empirical proof of what I have been telling you for 13 years now that this is no longer a Christian nation, in fact, we are a nation in complete rebellion to God and His Word.
Since 1908, the Gideon's have done a great job providing Bibles for hotel rooms, and still do today. It was a given even 10 years ago that virtually any hotel you went to, whether it be a $20 a night or a $2,000 a night room, there would be a Bible in the room. From the east coast to the west, from the north to the south, you could always count on finding a Bible in your hotel room.
The fact that Bibles are now being purposely excluded from most new hotels and removed by many hotels where they had been part of the standard room amenity, is simply further evidence that we are not only a nation in spiritual freefall, but a people who are living in complete rebellion to God and His Word. Look at what IS now being offered in hotel rooms. Gone is the Bible, but you can now get hardcore triple x adult movies. Gone is the Bible, but now available are condoms. As business travel has decreased over the years, the hotels are clearly marketing their facilities to people looking to meet for sex.
Listen, people using hotel rooms for illicit sexual rendezvous is certainly nothing new. That has existed since hotels have been around. However, never before was it so openly marketed for that purpose. In Asia, the infamous "love hotels" have been around for thousands of years. They have always unashamedly promoted themselves as a place for people looking to engage in sex. It is common for some Asian businessmen and businesswomen to take off a few hours during the day and visit their lover at one of these "love hotels." The new "boutique hotels" now popping up around this country are not much different, they just aren't quite as bold about declaring that is what they are.
No doubt husbands and wives will occasionally spend a night at a hotel, but most people using hotels as a place to have sex are either cheating on their spouse or engaging in sex outside of marriage. So from a marketing standpoint, I guess porn movies on the TV, sex kits in the rooms, and no Bibles makes sense. After all, who wants to open up the drawer and see a BIBLE as they get ready to commit adultery or an act of fornication? It isn't likely that afterwards, either will be reading the Psalms together or the 10 Commandments!!!
I love you and care about you so much. This is simply another visible cultural sign of how far we are from God and His Truth. It is not getting any better. We are either going to turn back to God and His Truth, or we will be seeing His wrath unleashed. It has only been His mercy and grace that has kept it from happening so far. But after killing 50 million innocent babies since our nation legally protected the practice of infanticide, with God's definition of marriage and family now redefined, with homosexuality and every other kind of sexual sin now accepted in our culture, with the vast majority of people who live their lives in open rebellion to God and His Word, we should not be surprised or shocked when God finally says enough is enough.
Putting Bibles back in hotel rooms is NOT going to lead this nation to repentance. That is only going to happen as hearts and lives are changed by the power of God. Just like the rich, fat priests of the Old Testament, most of God's priests today are focused on the temporal things of this world and not the eternal things of God. They are more interested in a person's bank account than their soul. They water down the Gospel and comprise the Truth of the Bible like any other motivational speaker, giving people the false hope of this world instead of the life changing hope found in the Scriptures. So why would we expect the people to live a holy and righteous life when it is not a standard many of God's leaders even try to live up to?
The good news is that there is a remnant. There is a group who will not bow their knee to Baal and follow the lies of this world, but have chosen to follow the Lord. It is that group and "many more who are lost today but will soon be saved" who will lead this nation back to God and to HIS Truth. The message of "repent and surrender your life to Jesus" won't sell many books or get you on TV, but it is the message that is going to save this nation from experiencing God's wrath and unleash a spiritual revival that has never been seen before. The hotels may be removing the Word of God from their rooms, but they can't remove God's Word from the hearts of His people!!!
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
I do have to say, in regards to BG, not this actual post. First, sacred and satanic are not antonyms. They don't mean the opposite of each other. If you asked a satanist if their ceremonies are sacred, they'd say yes, and they would be right. Just because your ceremonies are sacred, doesn't mean they aren't satanic.
Now, I'm not saying your ceremonies are satanic, just that you might want to choose a different word in future. You might try sanctified. Sanctified is usually an antonym of satanic, as long as you don't capitolize satanic.
Next, Moramnism is a cult, but then so is baptism, catholicism, and every religion on the face of the planet that has a god being at its head. If you have a godlike being at your head, whether he be person or not, you are a cult. That is the definition of a cult. Now, you may be a really big cult, but you are a cult. Here's the definition, "1.A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
2.A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister." That first one, that's all you, and every other religious person on the face of the planet.
Just wanted to make those two points. I'm not trying to insult you, just trying to point out a few mistakes I've seen people making.
#1 might be, but #2 certainly is not. In any case it doesn't change a thing about what this man is doing. Though I do have to say that I actually agree with him on the last issue (the first one which didn't immediatley strike me as rediculous). Whether or not the bible is in hotel rooms is not the concern, but the "intimacy kits, porn (which I believe you actually have to physically order) and especially fifty shades of gray (Really)? is probalby not a good idea. If people are going to go to a hotel for sexual purposes, they should be responsible for their entertainment .. and protection. Although some upthinking people might benifit from having someone else provide them with protection I suppose. Still, I have no idea how much research he put into this. At least he sited some of his sources for once. He could be using extreme examples.
I can't argue that, I'm not reading his posts, I won't give stupidity of that nature the time of day.
No, two doesn't apply to you, but two is the common definition of a cult. Like jone's town was a cult in the popular sense. However, the first one is what makes religion a cult. the words are even synonyms if you look them up.
I do wish it would end. Enough is enough!
I believe in God, but I sure don't have the right too shove it down other people's throats.
As you might claim that I'm shoving JESUS down your throat/throats, QUITE the ABSOLUTE CONTRARY, because JUST AS IT'S YOUR AUTHORITY to NOT read ANY of the posts that I post, EQUALING IN PERFECT COMPARISON is your authority to click your "IGNORE" settings, so's to either PARTIALLY or TOTALLY AVOID ANY/ALL posts. Should you choose to do NEITHER of the above, and yet STILL complain, IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT for "SHOVING JESUS down your OWN THROAT/THROATS. Makes sense, doesn't it?
***ASK BILL: Pastor Bill, are there any biblical references that can be used to help us to explain and understand the growing number of UFO sightings and related phenomena? As God created the heavens and the earth, and considering the incomprehensible size and God's ultimate authority over the universe, it seems possible that mankind may not be God's only created species that exist, other than HIS Angels.
ANSWER: There is not, other than in Genesis Chapter One we read God's account of the creation of the universe and ALL that is in it. I don't put much thought into the whole UFO, alien issue. However, the one thing that is certain, IF they exist, they are part of God's creation.
Let me share some insight with you that I have found to be true in my life and I am sure you have found in your own life. It is in our failures that we learn life's most important lessons and grow. Nobody wants to fail, but the only person who has never failed is someone who has never tried. Failure is part of life. It is something we all have to experience from time to time. The key, however, is how do you respond when you fail? How do you respond when life doesn't go as you planned?
Winning, losing, succeeding, failing, these are all concepts that we begin to learn as children. Playing games is something all children do, and quickly we learn there are winners and losers. During our childhood we try many things, music, sports, different hobbies. Again, we quickly learn the joy of succeeding in the things we do and that empty feeling when we fail. While it is important to keep winning and success in perspective and learn how to do both with humility, it is even more important to learn how to handle defeat and failure, as well as the lessons they can teach us.
The first lesson in losing, in failing, is to take personal responsibility and not blame other people or anything else. Having spent 31 months of my life in Federal Prison, having ministered these past 20 yrs to tens of thousands of men and women who are incarcerated, I can tell you the biggest problem I see with people in prison is the refusal to take personal responsibility for the choices that put them in prison. Most people you talk to who are in prison will tell you they are there because of what this person or that person said or did. They are not willing to accept responsibility that they are there because of the choices THEY MADE. A person who is in prison will never be able to move forward and turn their life around until they are ready to accept personal responsibility for THEIR choices.
Whenever we lose or fail, it is always easy to sit back and make excuses. Some of those excuses may even be valid. However, rather than investing the time and energy into finding excuses why we lost or failed, it is far more productive to look at the role WE played in our loss or failure. You learn nothing by blaming someone else or making excuses. When you sit down and are honest to look at yourself, at the choices you made that contributed to your loss or failure, then you are able to learn from the mistakes you made and hopefully not repeat them in the future. We can all learn much from our losses and failures in life if we will simply be honest with ourselves and take the time to analyze our thoughts and actions so we can identify what we did wrong.
The second lesson in losing, in failing, is to not let our loss or failure paralyze us from trying again. Some people become so devastated by losing, by failing, that they simply refuse to try again. My friend, losing and failing are part of life. As I said earlier, the only people I have met who have never lost or failed are people who have never tried. You can't be afraid of losing or failure. Nobody likes to lose. Nobody likes to fail. However, you will never win unless you also lose and you will never succeed unless you also fail. Rather than being paralyzed by losing and failing, let them motivate you. Learn from your losses and failures so that you don't repeat the mistakes and poor choices you made that led to them. instead of losing and failing making you weak, they can make you strong.
*LET ME SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME SINCE THIS IS A POWERFUL THOUGHT. INSTEAD OF LOSING AND FAILING MAKING YOU WEAK, LOSING AND FAILING CAN MAKE YOU STRONG!
The third lesson in losing, in failing is this, THERE IS NO FAILURE WITH GOD! In the process of serving the Lord, we will always have times and experiences when we feel in our flesh that we have failed, that we have let the Lord down. That is a lie from the pits of hell! THERE IS NO FAILURE WITH GOD! You can't fail when you are serving the Lord. The only way you can fail is to NOT serve Him! God uses our obedience and faithfulness in ways we will never see or understand until we get to Glory. The reality is, when we are yielded to the Lord, God uses our lives to do incredible things that we never even realize.
As a matter of fact, I submit that the greatest things you will ever do for God you don't even know you did them until you get to Heaven. Those are the things you do each day simply by being obedient and faithful . God will give us a little feedback along the way since He knows our flesh is weak and needs encouragement. However, the vast majority of what God does in and through our lives we will never fully comprehend in this life. Don't forget, our job isn't to know everything that is going on, it is simply to be obedient and faithful. God can use a willing and yielded vessel!
I love you and care about you so much. Losing and failing are simply part of this life. Things often don't go as we planned. THAT IS LIFE! How we respond to losing, to failing, when things don't go as we planned is the key. Never forget, God is on the throne. He doesn't take naps, or go to the bathroom, or take a break to eat a sandwich. God is on His throne at all times and nothing happens apart from God allowing it to happen. The vast majority of the time we lose or fail is because of the choices we made. God gave us free will, and God allows us to make the choices that lead to our losing or failing. Again, the key is how do we respond when we lose or fail.
Your first response should be prayer. Pray for God to open your heart, give you wisdom, and show you why you lost or failed. Than, you need to pray for God to give you the strength to overcome your disappointment in losing or failing, and help you to move forward. Lastly, you need to seek the Lord to guide you so that you don't make those same poor choices again. Listen to me carefully. God doesn't abandon you when you lose or fail. You are not alone. He is there with you each moment, so reach out and allow HIM to comfort you and give you His peace. God is with you in the good times and bad, through victory and defeat, through success and failure.
I will be praying for you today. Praying that God will speak to your heart today through these words. If you have suffered some defeats in your life recently, if you have failed, know that I am here and praying for you. Losing and failing are part of life. Don't let your defeats or failures keep you from moving forward. Life goes on. Sit down and learn from your losses, learn from your failures, and work to insure you don't make those mistakes again. Let me share a secret with you today. As long as you know Jesus as your Savior you can never lose or fail and if you don't know Jesus as your Savior, you can never win or succeed. One more time, say it out loud slowly, "As long as I know Jesus as my Savior I can never lose or fail and if I don't know Jesus as my Savior, I can never win or succeed!"
My friend, as long as you know Jesus, no matter what may happen, no matter what the setbacks in life you may experience along your journey, no matter what your defeats or your failures may be, you will always win and be successful! YOU ARE ALWAYS A WINNER AND A SUCCESS BECAUSE OF JESUS!!!
LOVE, BILL KELLER
If the shoe fits, where it.
I did not say you are shoving religion down anyone's throats. I sayd that I didn't have the right! How hard is that to understand!
So get off your pulpit and pay attention to what you are reading instead of accusing others.
ACtually, I don't think he has the courage or brains to actually read and respond to the words that are written. maybe he believes god is telling him to be ambiguous, or well, we could always consider the truth, which is that this bastard is a hateful sack of lying shit.
I'm surprised to say it, but I actually rather liked this last article. it's like we're hearing from a whole other person. That was uplifting, and true. I'm not sure what it had to do with other worlds, but it was nice to see that this man has the capacity to be inspiring for a change.
GLORY, I'm DEFINITELY NOT on ANY PULPIT, JUST BECAUSE I happen to post messages that PASTOR KELLER posts on his site. I DO APPOLOGIZE for misunderstanding the "SHOVING-DOWN-THROAT" statement, and I DO understand that there are those that MIGHT NOT wanna listen to the TRUTH, EITHER. I can DEFINITELY RELATE, MYSELF, because I was there, AND AT TIMES, am STILL THERE, UNFORTUNATELY. I don't want ANYONE to EVER THINK that I place MYSELF in ANY AUTHORITATIVE POSITION ABOVE ANYONE, because I CERTAINLY DON'T.
Godchosen, if I may ask, what is it about this man's messages that appeal to you? How do you know he is an authority on what Jesus Christ wants from us? Were Jesus reading these messages, do you think he would approve?
of course he thinks Jesus would approve. otherwise, he'd have no reason to post this stuff, being that everything he comes up with is God's doing rather than his.
mygodchosenbride&i4lifefinally,
That is quite all right.
Praise the lord and have a good day!
TRUTHFULLY, NONE OF US, which includes ALL OF US, are ABSOLUTELY POWERLESS to do, say, etc., ANYTHING, if it weren't for the LORD'S intervention--in FACT, being that we ALL have TOTALLY-GOD-GIVEN FREE WILL to act ON OUR OWN WITHOUT HIM, pending ONLY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES as a RESULT, it's ONLY when we DO allow HIM to be TOTAL LORD of OUR LIVES, and even though HE doesn't require OUR assistance in HIS using us, it IS a COOPERATIVE MATTER, in which HE'S the DRIVER, WE'RE the WHEEL. As far as whether or not I think JESUS'LL APROOVE, it NEVER MATTERS what ANY OF US think, since HE'S the FINALITY of it all, ANYWAY.
In response to requests for MY ORIGINAL, below is a copy of a message that I sent to a facilitator of a group that I'm a member of.
Ok, Fred--of course, I DO RESPECT your decision to think otherwise, but I wanna illustrate something that QUITE OFTEN comes up in our various group themes, known as CHANGE. Now, when you told me that the sentence that I'VE chosen to demonstrate the difference between CONCISE and NON-CONCISE was having to do with NOT RESPECTING the BELIEFS of those that choose to NOT "BELIEVE what I BELIEVE," and that it was just merely "MY TRUTH, ONLY," I thought we would just CAREFULLY EXAMINE this conclusion, and AGAIN, still in TOTAL RESPECT of YOUR CHOICE to either accept or reject whatever the end result of this examination DETERMINES, move on from THERE.
Now, I'm ABSOLUTELY SURE that you DEFINITELY AGREE WITH ME that CHANGE, IN-AND-OF ITSELF, is CERTAINLY INEVITABLE in one's life. You also do agree that one DOES have the capacity to form OPINIONS of whatever given whatever, and that the FORMATION of such derives either from PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, perhaps passed-along HEAR-SAYS, etc., etc. We can DEFINITELY JOINTLY AGREE that one's opinion CAN, AT TIMES, give one a sense of whatever quantity/quality amount of PERSONAL SECURITY for WHATEVER GIVEN LENGTH OF TIME. It's CERTAINLY NO ARGUMENT, WHATSOEVER, that ONE'S OPINION is an OBJECT OF THOUGHT, so to speak, that one CHOOSES to BASE UPON, in one's PROBABLE/POSSIBLE ATTEMPT to PROTECT ONESELF from WHATEVER ADVERSE ELEMENT that JUST MIGHT CHALLENGE ONE to PERHAPS THINK DEEPER, since DEPTH, depending on HOW FAR, can be FRIGHTENING, as SHALLOWNESS, if you might, provides REFUGE (but for how long?). FREE WILL, as you ALSO concur with me, determines the WHOLE PERSON'S MENTAL and EMOTIONAL MAKE-UP. It signifies one's ability to either RESPONSIBLY or IRRESPONSIBLY DECIDE. It was FREE WILL that determined OUR QUALITY of LIFE on SEPT. 11, 2001, as an unfortunate example. HOWEVER, FREE WILL DEFINITELY HAS, DOES, and STILL WILL demonstrate SAFE BEHAVIORS, as WELL, when acted upon. THEREFORE, OPINIONS are an OFFSPRING of FREE WILL, and JUST LIKE the PARENT (FREE WILL), it's ALWAYS one's OPINION/OPINIONS, ONLY WHEN ACTED UPON, whether in THOUGHT or ACTUAL DEED, that determines one's BEHAVIOR. OBVIOUSLY, if ONE'S BEHAVIOR, as the POSSIBLE RESULT of one's OPINION, due to one's OWN FREE WILL, DOES TEND to cause such one PROBLEMS, and such same one REALIZES this, and is "FREE-WILLINGLY," if you might, DECIDING to set the goal to behave in TOTAL, ABSOLUTE CONTRAST, to bring about POSITIVE, HEALING RESULTS, CHANGE, of course, HAS TAKEN PLACE. Now, given ALL of the ABOVE, was I citing TOTALLY SOLID TRUTH, or merely expressing MY OWN OPINION, or as YOU put it: "TRUTH, as according to ME?"
Go stick a cross up your ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WPvSo8AYdM
I DEFINITELY HOPE that I'm NOT OUT OF LINE for saying what I'm ABOUT TO, but in response, ALL THAT'S to be SAID is that "GOD is DEFINITELY NOT MOCKED, because WHATEVER WE SOW, THAT, and THAT, ALONE, we will CERTAINLY REAP. By our OWN WORDS, we're either JUSTIFIED or CONDEMNED."
***DON'T BELIEVE ME? LISTEN TO THE DAUGHTER OF A MORMON BISHOP WHO WAS RAISED IN THIS SATANIC CULT IS NOW A TRUE BORN-AGAIN BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST!!! Tricia has become a friend and is a bold witness like few can be, having grown up as the daughter of a bishop in the Mormon cult and married in the secretive Mormon temple marriage ceremony! Read about her at: http://www.wnd.com/2011/10/354721/ As many brave ex-Mormons, she has had her life threatened by those "nice people" like Beck and Romney who don't want the secrets of their cult being told to the public! Also, Beck's bought and paid for puppet David Barton who allows Beck to perpetuate his LIE to Christians that he is a Christian too, has said if you don't vote for Romney, a 5th generation high priest of the satan worshipping Mormon cult that propogates a false gospel leading souls to hell, you are committing a sin! Before you allow satan to justify you for voting for EITHER of his minions this November, pray, and go to: www.votingforjesus.com
***COMING MONDAY! Finally, an organization that has the GUTS to take a stand! Don't miss this Devotional praising the Boy Scouts of America for standing up to the bullying by homosexual groups! It is refreshing to see in this day of gutless compromise, an organization take a real stand against satan! AMEN!
***ASK BILL: Pastor Bill, Sometimes I wonder how you do it. You dish out an unpopular message to the world and you take abuse for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Don't you ever get tempted to soften the message in hopes of getting less persecution? And fitting in to the world with a weak, comfy Christian message?
ANSWER: This is a question I get every day. The answer surprisingly is NO! No sane person enjoys being persecuted, or taking the slings and arrows. No sane person would want to have 8-10 death threats a month as I have for over 10 years now. However, there IS a price to serving the Lord. Part of that price is to be persecuted, mocked, laughed at, and scorned. However, that is a small price to pay considering that Jesus went to the cross to pay for my sins, your sins, and the sins of all mankind! Softening the message is NOT an option, since like each of us, I will die one day and stand before God. I want that to be a great experience, and my life is dedicated to hearing His words, "Well done thou good and faithful servant!"
***PLEASE PRAY! Our prayers go out to the families and friends of those who were killed and injured in the tragic Aurora, Co. movie theater massacre. It is no accident God had me share with you that very day about the existence of evil in this world. If you needed an example of evil, you got it! Sadly, this life is so brief, and often over before we ever expect it to be.
Fear not. As I was in prayer this morning about what God would have me say to you today, He brought this powerful verse from the book of Isaiah into my mind and told me that many of you today needed to be encouraged and reassured that God had not left you.
The Bible promises us that He will never leave us nor forsake us. Let me say it this way, God has NEVER left you, although you may have left Him. How can you fear anything...any person, any situation, any circumstance, when God is there with you? But the promise of this verse just doesn't end with His presence.
To me, the power in the verse is His promise to help us. Every morning, when I look into the mirror in my bathroom, the first thing I see is a Bible verse from John that simply says, "Without me you can do nothing." I never want to start the day trusting in my own strength or wisdom, but trying to rely on what God provides.
It is such a comfort to know that God is with me and that He is helping me. That is why I have such confidence, even in the face of what appears to be overwhelming odds. God is with me, He is helping me, and the Bible says that if He is with me, who can be against me! That promise also applies to you!!!!
I want you to put this truth in your heart and mind, and start living a confident, victorious life..NOW!!! There is no better time than now to put God to the test. If he said it, believe it, and live it. When you are driving down the freeway at 60 MPH and there are cars all around you going just as fast or even faster, you are trusting those other drivers literally with your life. When you get on an airplane, you are trusting the pilot to get you up and down safely. There are so many times each day that you are putting your faith in trust in people you don't even know.
If you are willing to blindly trust total strangers every day, why not put your trust in the God of the universe, the God who loved you so much He sent His son to die for your sins, the God that not only promises to never leave you, but help you.???
I love you and care for you deeply. I want to see you rise above whatever the situations in your life may be, live that victorious life. Not only do you than become a living testimony of God's power, but you are then free to serve Him without being so distracted by the events in your life. Overcoming the hurdles in your life gives you the freedom to help others overcome their hurdles.
In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller
Yawn.... glad I'm not a Religious person.
*sigh* is this still going on? terrence, you ought to give this losing battle up. you'reb just looking more and more pathetic. I am sure no one wants to here what bill keller has to say nor care about what he says, here, so give it up. I won't even try to reason, it'll go to waste.
You tell him Rachel..